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Posted: 12/4/2006 3:56:36 PM EDT
| what kind of accuracy are you Robinson armament XCR owners getting? better or worse than an ar-15? I had heard that it will only shoot about 2 inches at 100. pretty good, but not $1400 good. am I misinformed? |
My XCRs, in my hands is equal to one of my ARs in my hands. I just wish a real shooter could try one with match ammo and good weather so we can find out where it stands in more absolute terms. I have no allusions that it is anywhere close to the stuff that Wes and Paul build but I would say it could likely hang with good commercial stuff in terms of ARs. |
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I'd hate to hijack this thread, but I gots to do it..... How does the XCR compare in feel and balance to an AR with and without rails? I know the XCR's quadrail system is built right in to the body and was wondering if it felt as nose heavy as an AR with a similar rail set up. |
another hijack, your username is awsome  (see my avatar) |
| I like the balance of my XCR. The rail portion feels thinner than those on ARs. The rifle seems a little heavy but since it balances out well it's not a big deal. I am wondering how much weight will be added with the medium and heavy barrels that are supposed to come out. |
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The point of balance is great, I think this is why they sold it first with the thin barrel. But the rifle is a little heavy overall just like an AR with a full rail system. I mount my optics as low as I can on the XCR because the top rail sits higher compared to an AR. Anyone on the fence of buying one should certainly get it. It's not the perfect rifle but it's really a step above an AR. Kevin |
Yes, 10 shot groups with match ammunition would be very nice. I've read all the internet posts and gun mag articles that I could find, but no one has mustered the courage yet. |
| I fully intend to do alot of accuracy testing as soon as I can get a range day. There is no reason why the XCR shouldn't shoot some decent groups. I'm not sure who supplies the barrels but it is probably a manufacturer that supplies the major AR companies as well. The fact that the barrel is lighter should only effect accuracy when it starts getting hot. Its free floated so the XCR already has an advantage over a standard AR. Usually free floating the barrel can improve the accuracy by about 1 MOA. People have talked about the price being high for the XCR. If you buy any standard AR then add a good free float tube you are looking at about 1200-1300 dollars and it still wont have a quick change barrel. The LMT quick change monolithic upper goes for $1200 and thats just the upper. My buddy sunk $1700 into an AR and its still not as nice as my XCR. |
Glad you're enjoying your XCR. However............. Don't forget that there are other quick-change barrel systems for the AR15 than the LMT MRP, which are more affordable, and have other advantages of their own. But, if you don't want an AR, then you already have one of the alternatives in your posession. Have fun. |
Well, to be fair, there will never be a perfect rifle in the truest sense, so I can't really hold that against it. As far as the medium and heavy barrels, how do you expect those to compare to a fluted thin one (another something they are supposed to come out with soon) and the standard thin one in terms of accuracy? Now that I've rerailed the thread, I've got to derail it once more. So, just to make sure that I'm understanding what you guys are saying, the XCR has better balance than an AR w/quadrail? |
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I am a long time diehard AR owner and spent a few years in the Corps, I love the AR15 and I love the XCR even more. The rifle feels better to me and it is very light, My RR AR15 (factory heavy 16") was heavy with my suppressor and rail and light etc... The XCR seems to be a lot lighter and more balanced. So far in the field my XCR has shot so well that the butterflies of owning a non-AR are totally gone and the AR is a mere memory, Kinda like an old car. |
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