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Posted: 11/23/2006 7:23:03 PM EDT
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Ok, here is my situation... I want an FS2000, but cannot find one to look at, and am wondering if I should go on and order it without handling one I looked at an AUG yesterday (well, a USR actually) and loved both the balance and the length. So my question is, since these weapons are the same length and both are balanced over the pistol grip, are they similiar enough in feel that if I like one I will like the other? Or do I need to seek out an FS2000 to handle before ordering? BTW, the USR was awesome!! but too expensive, they wanted $3200. I also want something that uses AR mags. I did not know I would be that impressed by it! Happy Thanksgiving! |
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James, I have owned an FS2000, it shot pritty well but upon taking it apart I realized that its construction (mainly its stock halves and trigger assemmbly) were sort of flimsy. Also its bolt carrier was pritty complicated and a pain to take apart. I much prefer the AUG as its stock isn't bolted together and its fairly simple to field strip and maintain. There are currently 2 companys in the final stages of producing US made AUGs for under $2000 with threads in this forum. If you wait a few months for shot show I think you will be happy you did as these rifles will be there and will probably be better than the FS2000. Nate |
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You've asked a ton of questions, so you're smart enough to find out what the deal is before deciding on what gun. Given that, I'd say wait. At least until you can actually handle a FS2000. The price, and your personality would, to me at least, say that's the best course of action. I wouldn't order one without handling it, and I've owned bullpups, love the concept, and have shot several different ones, and handled most of the rest. But I'm still not going to throw that kinda cash down to "try one out". There's little to nothing to be gained by rushing it, and everything to gain by waiting. With the possiblity of options like a USA Aug coming out, letting others get more experience with the FS2000, and sooner or later handling one yourself, I think you'll be much better off waiting. |
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You are correct both the AUG series of rifles and the FN FS2000 are equally well balanced (advantage to the bullpup design) and similiar in length unless you go with a shorter barrel for the AUG, which is easy to do. However, the Girth of the AUG and the FN FS2000 is very different. The FS2000 is very bulky (for lack of a better term) compared to the slimmer AUG. Some users find that they have to crane their necks a little to use the iron sights on the FS2000 whereas they do not have to do that to use the scope on their AUG. However, for some folks this isn't a problem so you may want to hold one before you order one to be sure. The FS2000 is a fine rifle, but in my opinion the AUG is still the King of the bullpups. You can purchase AR Mag coversion kits for USRs. Kent (TPD) is coming out with an American version of the AUG that will accept AR Mags, but he is about 6 months away from being able to market that rifle. Pete over at PJs claims his rifle will be ready to go after SHOT in January and is already taking advanced orders, but his rifle is designed to accept the AUG mags. However, you could still probably purchase the the AR stock conversion kit and outfit Pete's rifle with the AR mags. The FS2000 is less expensive then buying a USR and converting it or buying an AUG A1 or A2, but once the American made AUGs are up and selling their parts will be less expensive and easier to get along with more options like a rail system. In addition, the overall cost of the American AUGs will be slightly less than the FS2000 giving you more money to spend on ammunition, scopes, or whatever else you may want. So, if you want to purchase a rifle right now...get the FS2000 (if you hate it you can always sell it), but if you can hang in there wait for the American AUGs as I think they'll really be worth the wait and save ya money in the long run. I am an owner of an AUG A2, but have fired the FS2000 as one of the guys at my private range club owns one. You may want to talk with the folks over www.fivesevenforum.com or at the FN Herstal thread here if you're looking for a more pro-FS2000 argument. |
OK, thanks, im gonna wait. But how similiar do the two guns point and balance? Thanks again! |
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I've shot both the AUG and FS2000 side by side. The FS2000 points, balances, and handles better. The USR version of the AUG handles worse than the standard AUG because of the weight of the heavy barrel that it comes with. I would be cautious about any American made AUG and possible quality control & manufacturing problems associated with a small unknown manufacturing company. Australia had QC problems with the first 7000 or so AUGs they built and that was made by a much larger company than will be making the US versions. I hope the US versions prove me to be wrong. |
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Thanks for all the responses. Since I cant go look for an FS2000 this second, I have a question... One thing I really liked about the AUG/USR was how rigidly i could keep it in my shoulder, probably due to the more rearward balance point. Do you find this to be true with the FS2000? Thanks! |
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The FS2000shoulders easily and stays on the shoulder easily. It is very firable from the shoulder with just one hand. It may be bulkier than the AUG, but it is lighter and more importantly better balanced. As for the FS2000 being hard to use with open sights--the gun is really designed to mount some type of optic. Even the owner's manual refers to the sights as "back-uo iron sights." |
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