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Posted: 9/5/2006 10:42:09 PM EDT
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I thought some of you might be interested in checking out these links: - Packing.org info on Mexican gun laws: www.packing.org/state/all_of_mexico - A Mexican gun forum, which even has a subforum for discussing armed self-defense: www.mexicoarmado.com - NOT a gun store but here's a website that shows some guns available in Mexico: www.laarmeria.com.mx Any Mexicano's here? |
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I lived in Mexico for over a year...... there are hunting clubs you can join which is really the only way you can own a gun unless you have a ranch, and then they'll let you own a .22 and 12 gauge. There is a huge amount of illegal gun ownership, though. Also interesting to note is that the Mexican constitution affirms a right to arms similar to the second amendment. |
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Beltfed, Why wouldnt Mexican folks speak up here? HeVGunner, Where did you live in Mexico? Where did you get your info on Mexican gun stuff? From what I've been told and read, there are actually lots of other ways to own guns then those you mention, plus lots of other calibers available. |
there is an ad for a glock 25 .380 acp looks like 700 pesos. on the last link. some other neet guns. |
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I'm a full-blooded gringo and lived in northern Mexico for 9 years (Dad worked there). Guns and gun ownership in Mexico is generally a scary proposition for its citizens - or at least the ones who are peaceful. The laws are highly restrictive to basically .22s and single shots according to the "official" word of LEOs on the street, most definitely no military calibers; and even then one is still subject to the whim and mercy of officials who can harass and prosecute without due process of law for being a suspected robber or mafioso. No laws or regs are clearly defined or much understood - much less enforced -so constitutional protections "on the books" in far away Mexico, D.F. are pretty much FUBAR for the average law-abiding citizen. Someone above mentioned Mexico has constitutional protections for bearing arms, yet not once did I ever hear this discussed or claimed by a Mexican citizen nor government official. And I have known and talked with many people, including businessmen, policemen, and college educated. There are probably more Americans aware of this than Mexicans. From what I've seen, those who are well-armed in Mexico are either well-connected politicos-lawyers/businessmen/ranchers, or just plain suspicious mafiosos as perceived to be even if you're an average joe. Most are lumped into that second category. In other words, if you're just an average Joe Dominguez looking to protect his family/proprty with a M1911 and caught in possession, he's SOL unless he can make a large payoff to the officials present and pray it works, or he's got clout with local or state bigshots/lawyers. Most often of course the payoff in one form or another is used. Having said that, it would be accurate to say Mexico is awash with unregistered/unpapered weapons of all types - even full autos. But you'll almost never see one out in the open - ever. It's a way of life for them to keep what you have a guarded secret, cleverly hide your gun(s) in interesting places and use your wits to stay out of (big Govt.) trouble. The most prized weapon to have? An AR-15. They call it R-15. There's even a folk music group named after it - Banda R-15. Very very expensive American hardware to obtain, most times illegally "imported". Ranchers and traffickers would pay through the nose to get one. "How many cows...or kilos...do you want, amigo"?  The AK-47...called "Cuerno de Chivo" - or goat's horn for its characteristic magazine shape. Also highly sought after. Of course a favorite of drug traffickers. If good guns weren't hard enough to get, try ammo. .22s no problem, but centerfire is like trying to find a good legal(no such thing) Cuban cigar in the U.S. This is how it was on the street at least in that part of Mexico I was at. In other parts I concede it could be different and more structured system as far as legally obtainable weapons and ammunition for hunt clubs, shooting ranges etc. but none of this existed in the northern regions AFAIK. Bottom line is...if you're an average working guy that wants to have good protection and can afford it - but most definitely wants to stay out of legal/criminal trouble and has NO strong political connections, in Mexico it's not possible to do all this. You're going to have to chance it, use your wits and hope for the best. Most do exactly this. There are plenty of countries worse off than this, so it's not as bleak as one would think. At least weapons are obtainable when you really have to. God Bless the USA. |
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Intersesting forum, notice the blade forum is bigger than the pistol/rifle forums together. Their GD has some interesting discussions such as "Do ducks see in color?" and a thread on rattle snakes. And of course like our GD, the never ending truck/home repair questions. |
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