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Posted: 7/26/2006 8:50:57 PM EDT
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Does anyone here use strike plates on their handguns? here are two examples: Glock:  www.masterblastersbullets.com/page2.html 1911:  www.urbanadvantage.net/ |
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This is primarily another specialty SWAT or "Hollywood" accessory. The "idea" is, you can press the gun against an opponent and fire it without the slide being pushed back and engaging the disconnecter. This is pushed as a "CQB" Close Quarter Battle item for use in tight places where you might have to grapple with someone. While it MIGHT have some utility to an entry team, most entry teams use shotguns, SMG's, or carbines, not pistols. For the average shooter, it's something "KOOL" that belongs on a "Range Toy". |
well, I know that the one on the Glock is designed so that there is a compensator effect. For the most part, yes, i do agree that for the average user they are superfluious... just not nearly as much as this one... 
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| I have this vision of the above gun's owner sitting on the witness stand explaining to the court how he used his bayonet equipped pistol to stab someone, when he happens to notice that the judge, lawyers, court bailiffs, court recorder, the jury, and the crowd are all looking at him like he's wearing a Napoleon uniform. |
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A pistol is a weapon that is designed to throw lead at your target idealy at a range that keeps you out of his reach. Idealy. But fact of the matter is that even though hand gun wounds are leathal, they are not catastrphic unless you get a good head shoot. What that means is that is takes a while for the wound to have its effect in neutralizing his agression b/c it takes a while for him to bleed out. W/ encounters happeneing w/i 7yrds generally, a bad guy is usually going to get to you. The best you can hope for is to perforate him a few times and then keep your self from being stabbed or otherwise molsested for a minite or two until he bleeds out. Sorry, but hand gun bullets do not make a man fly back 6 feet or instantly die. Idealy you would neutralize him before he reaches you. Idealy if you did have to resort to struggleing w/ him, you would be able to holter your pistol and draw a more appropiate specialized and effective blugening weapon that you also had on your person. I dealiy you wouldn't need to worry about having to shoot or struggle w/ anyone else etc. The point is that this type of device gives you more options and flexibility when dealing w/ a dynamic real situation that is less that ideal when all that you have for a firearm is a pistol or you have to resort to your pistol. I agree that a pistol doesn't make the best melee weapoon, but it could help you deal w/ one bad guy who makes a rush at you and then be in a position where you are ready to deal w/ another one who is still a few yards away since you didn't have to drop you pistol to mix it up. Do they make concealed carry or finding a snazzy molded leather holster easier, no, but don't say that they have no benefits at all for a tactical, service type gun. |
dwheel, I don't understand what you mean by this. First of all, this thing isn't a standoff device. A stand off device is something that prevents the muzzle from being placed against an object w/ a gas seal so that the gun doesn't KaBoom, such as on the muzzle of a breeching shotgun. If you pressed this against something somewhat solid and fired the gun, the gun might blow up, or your would at least have a tremendous flash come out the ejection port or soemthing dangerous. And what do you mean by "engaging the disconnector"?? |
Hmm...seems to me if this is a consideration, you have let the bad guy get way too close. Also, I *like* the fact that if I'm in a tussle, I can deactivate my own weapon if necessary by pushing the slide out of battery. |
why dont' you try this experiment: Have a healthy young male friend stand seven yards from you w/ a rubber knife or similar object. Put a chamber flag in your pistol, holter it or put it in your waist band or whatever like you carry concealed. W/ each of you at a neutral position, at some sort of signal, have him rush you as fast as he can and similtaneously draw you pistol and try and shoot him. Tell me if you can get two to the chest and one to the head off before he deflects your gun and stabs you. To be honest, anyone who troubles themself w/ carrying a gun should carry a serious combat knife too, or even insetad b/c in hand to hand combat a knife will make someone bleed out quicker than a hand gun. In most street defense situations you don't have alot of warning or space so a knife would be more practicle, but if you are going to carry a gun it might be a good idea to give yourself a little flexability to by having a device that can keep the gun from being knocked out of battery so if a good shot presents itself you can take it and that can also be used to punch someone with. |
What a waste, even on a CZ  Tits on a boar hog comes to mind................... |
DH2, where is that thing from? I might be interested in that as a source for strike plate part of it. |
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