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6/10/2006 12:19:12 PM EDT
Say what you want but this is one sweet gun.  Here are a couple of pics.  And yes, it did cost me some $$$$$.



Pic. from front with Eotech



Next to my 16" DPMS

6/10/2006 12:22:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Dude......I'm greener than that stock with envy.  Nice gun, bro.  When I save up the scratch, that is the next gun I'm getting!  Thanks for the pics!
6/10/2006 12:51:57 PM EDT
[#2]
On FN's website it says overall length is 29.1" and barrel length is 17.4".

Looks like you could take over an inch off the barrel and still be over the 27" overall length limit and barrel length limit.

Lets here about how it shoots.
6/10/2006 1:27:22 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
On FN's website it says overall length is 29.1" and barrel length is 17.4".

Looks like you could take over an inch off the barrel and still be over the 27" 26" overall length limit and barrel length limit.

Lets here about how it shoots.

6/10/2006 1:40:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I was drooling all over one today at the gunshow in Dallas. The rear sight is kinda cheesy, but other than that I want one.
No way I could pay $2400 for one though.
6/10/2006 1:45:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Congrats.  I bit on the only one in town today.  They wanted $2,499 but took $2,000 ($2,149 out the door).  I did just okay I guess.  The gun is awesome though.  Don't you love how light it is and how snappy it is to shoulder?  Now what to do with the 2000 rds. of Wolf .223 that I have that I'm not supposed to feed it?  I guess its going to be around $150/ case to feed this thing.  Anybody know the best shipped price for the quality of ammo that this thing requires?
6/10/2006 2:14:39 PM EDT
[#6]
It is a cool gun, and I will have one.. But I wont pay as much.. $700-800 profit on a new gun is absurd..  I can wait..
6/10/2006 3:47:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Congrat's it's looks like a nice rifle. How does it shoot, handle and feel? Are mag changes quick?

I like it but that's a bit pricey. The length of it total is really nice and the forward ejection and ambi controls look to make it a winner. I wouldn't mind one that's for sure, but I'm not getting all tingly for that price. $1200.00 to $1400.00 would be about right. They are using alot of polymer so it should be cheaper to make, not more expensive.
6/10/2006 4:11:32 PM EDT
[#8]
What do you mean it can't use wolf steel .223 what kind does it take?
6/10/2006 4:41:35 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What do you mean it can't use wolf steel .223 what kind does it take?



According to FN, using Wolf or steel cased ammo will void the warranty.
6/10/2006 5:15:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Ok, so here is the deal after a trip to the range.


Shot 240 rounds of various 5.56 ammo through the gun with NO problems.

Shot:

Federal XM193
Winchester Q3131
Remington UMC 55g (white / green box)


2 mags. of each

First impressions:

•Recoil was very nice for a light gun, went straight back with very little rise at the
 muzzle.

•Sounds was very quiet with out all of the clanging of springs and bolts that I typically notice out of my AR.

•Ejection was a little distracting as after every shot either 1 or a few rounds would drop out of the front (just not used to this)

•Smells - was surprised that all the gas / smoke from the discharge stayed in front of me and was not choking me.

•Trigger was a little long with some play in it at the beginning (not a match / crisp type trigger).

•Groups were very consistent with all of the ammo, shot at 25, 50, 75 & 100 yrds with no problem.

•Mag changes were a little awkward as the release is under the trigger guard at the rear of the grip you have to push up and pull down at the same time.  The loop on my mag pulls would work much better if they were oriented from front to back edge of the mags instead of side to side (maybe I can invent one).


The COOLEST thing to me was the way it ejects a round if you have one in the chamber and want to clear the gun.  What I did was flipped up the access door on top (to observe) with a mag in and the safety on (of course pointing the gun down range at all times) and cycled the bolt a few times what I saw was the round being taken out of the chamber angled up and pushed down the ejection tube and exiting the frame at the front, I did this with about 7-8 rounds and worked great every time.

The most awkward thing for me was the safety / selector it is a rotating selector at the base of the trigger guard for Safety position you push it to the left with your index finger (if right handed) and to fire you would pull (rotate) to the right.  Just seemed to be backwards as most of my other guns I push with my trigger finger to remove from safety and to fire.  Just me but no big deal.

Overall extremely happy and pleased with the performance, function, and comfort of this gun.

I will take some pics. Of the parts prior to cleaning.
6/10/2006 5:22:24 PM EDT
[#11]
... Looks like you could store your lunch-pail in the stock!
6/10/2006 5:54:25 PM EDT
[#12]
What is the twist?
1/7 or 1/9 ?

Is the magazine in that gun  a standard 30rd mag?

Also is it direct impingement like an AR or some piston type setup?

6/10/2006 6:00:46 PM EDT
[#13]
What is the twist?
1/7 or 1/9 ?

1/7

Is the magazine in that gun a standard 30rd mag?

Yes, 20 or 30 but just standard ar mags.

Also is it direct impingement like an AR or some piston type setup?

Not sure what this is but yes there are pistions when you take it down.
6/10/2006 6:01:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Did you measure the twist rate yourself?
Last I heard from FN directly, it was 1/9.
6/10/2006 6:04:32 PM EDT
[#15]
sorry, I meant the magazine in the picture you posted.

That magazine looked short to me.  Is that one in the pic a 30 rd mag?




6/10/2006 6:18:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks for the report.

Max
6/10/2006 6:21:46 PM EDT
[#17]
Here are a few pics. of the Bolt group & Trigger Group after 240 rds.

As far as the twist rate just noted what it says in owners manual "    7" right hand".





Chamber / feed ramps



Stock



6/10/2006 6:23:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Sorry,

I forgot to note, the mag in the first pics is a D&H LEO marked 20 rd. mag that also came with the pkg. as well as a FN 30 rd.

6/10/2006 6:28:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Nice picks.  I have been mulling on whether I should jump on one or not.

Max
6/10/2006 7:10:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Very nice. This has moved up on my list to #2 behind the Nighthawk GRP.
6/10/2006 7:55:49 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What do you mean it can't use wolf steel .223 what kind does it take?



According to FN, using Wolf or steel cased ammo will void the warranty.



How long is the warranty?
6/10/2006 8:25:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Can the trigger be adjusted, or is it one of those gunsmith/dremel only type things?
6/10/2006 8:29:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Tag
6/10/2006 8:56:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Tag for the fucking coolest bullpup ever
6/10/2006 9:01:21 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Can the trigger be adjusted, or is it one of those gunsmith/dremel only type things?



I did not see anything in the manual about being adjustable I think it will be a FN gunsmith adjustment.

Also, on the ammo issue the only thing the manual notes is that you are to use NATO and or SAAMI (or what ever it is) standards for ammo.  Did not say anything about Wolf or Steel Case.
6/10/2006 9:36:28 PM EDT
[#26]
After seeing these pics along with the other thread on the FS2000, the anticipation in getting mine from Talon Arms is killing me!
6/11/2006 1:41:06 AM EDT
[#27]
You lucky son of a bitch.

Edit*

Hahaha, is it possible to get a computer, like the one on the F2000
6/11/2006 3:40:37 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can the trigger be adjusted, or is it one of those gunsmith/dremel only type things?



I did not see anything in the manual about being adjustable I think it will be a FN gunsmith adjustment.

Also, on the ammo issue the only thing the manual notes is that you are to use NATO and or SAAMI (or what ever it is) standards for ammo.  Did not say anything about Wolf or Steel Case.



The trigger tamer is made for the Steyr AUG but I am not sure if something can be made for the FS2000. The guy that makes the tamer said he couldn't do it for the PS90.

You could contact FN and ask them about Wolf steel cased ammo. They'll either say it voids the warranty, or "why would you shoot 10c ammo out of a $2000 gun", or it'll be fine
6/11/2006 5:25:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Weight?
6/11/2006 5:45:43 AM EDT
[#30]
If it's not too much trouble, (for a fellow Texan) could you measure the OD and length of the foreward part of the flash suppressor?

I have one on order from Talon, and would like to see if the HALO suppressor is going to work.

Hopefully it will be 22mm OD.
6/11/2006 7:14:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Oh so fucking tagged.
6/11/2006 7:24:43 AM EDT
[#32]
Few more pics as requested.





6/11/2006 7:33:57 AM EDT
[#33]
pics aren't working
6/11/2006 7:38:05 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
pics aren't working



I can see them

I magon a FS200 on a staircase.
6/11/2006 8:04:22 AM EDT
[#35]
Ok, Ok enough with the comments on the picture props.  

The question was do I buy a fancy picture stand or not eat for a month and buy the FS2000 guess you know what I chose.  So any extra MRE's out there will be appreciated.

Here are the pics of the request on the dim. of the FH.  

W = 21.95mm
 
L (overall from base of FH to tip of FH)=  82.60mm

Depth from tip of FH to crown of barrel = 34.47mm

Barrel is 14.64 mm in outside Dia.

Overall barrel exposed (including FH) = 143.77mm

Overall Barrel length exposed (less FH and including area under FH) = 143.77 - 34.47 = 109.3mm (or 4.3 inches).


Pic. looking Down FH





Pic. of OD of FH with Measurement - Also please note that the staked pin holding the FH is only exposed on the right side of the FH, there is not a coresponding hole on the left side like you would typicaly see on a part being held on with a roll pin that could be just punched out.  I guess if you wanted to remove this you will have to drill it out.






6/11/2006 8:21:34 AM EDT
[#36]
Actually, I like the two-tone green with black.

I think that the way the green goes up to the front, almost like a stripe, it breaks up the potential bulky look that the all-black gun would have.

I think that if I got one, I'd get it just like this one, with the two-tone.
6/11/2006 8:26:54 AM EDT
[#37]
I thought of going all black but I like the 2 tone (green/black) so I am going to stick with it as well.  
6/11/2006 10:50:12 AM EDT
[#38]
Thanks!

Since I already have the HALO, and you have the 2000...  
6/11/2006 11:16:47 AM EDT
[#39]
i really like that....

nice rifle bud
6/11/2006 11:24:59 AM EDT
[#40]
You need a video of it bumping a 30 rounder into some water!
6/11/2006 11:58:31 AM EDT
[#41]
I just picked mine up at Military Gunsupply on Wednesday.  It's one of those purchases that caused me to have to do some "shifting" in the collection.  I definitely wouldn't put wolf in it, but then again, I don't put wolf in my AR's either.   What really amazed me was that it was still shorter than my 14.5" bushmaster fully collapsed!  I consider it my "as close to SBR w/o a tax stamp" rifle.

Since it has the gas adjustment for shooting subsonic rounds, I would imagine a slightly creative person would build an suppressor that fit over the fixed flash hider, or at least make a flash hider to do it.  I'll have to double check, but I was thinking the hider was pinned on in order to satisfy the barrel length restriction.
6/11/2006 1:18:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Wow,

Very nice...someday...someday.

Question:  Are the Magazines in the pictures directly above the 20 rounds magazines? The military version looks like the mags are larger or more out fromt he stock or is that  just my skewed vision?  

6/11/2006 1:29:59 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What do you mean it can't use wolf steel .223 what kind does it take?



According to FN, using Wolf or steel cased ammo will void the warranty.



If you read just about any US made gun warranty, they will all say use of reloaded, or forgeign ammo will also void the warranty..

Piss on it, I'd use Wolf, can't hurt it, just make it dirtier..
6/11/2006 1:47:17 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What do you mean it can't use wolf steel .223 what kind does it take?



According to FN, using Wolf or steel cased ammo will void the warranty.



If you read just about any US made gun warranty, they will all say use of reloaded, or forgeign ammo will also void the warranty..

Piss on it, I'd use Wolf, can't hurt it, just make it dirtier..



Bushmaster uses and approves the use of Wolf, and I think they're the only US gun maker that says that.
6/13/2006 5:39:01 AM EDT
[#45]
Thanks for all the info and pics with the Eotech I order one after a saw your pics.
I'm taking one of mind to the range this on Friday.  



6/13/2006 5:49:54 AM EDT
[#46]
PLEASE tell me that's not a plastic hammer (white) and some kind of tan plastic piece inside a white plastic housing on a $2000 rifle? I love the looks of this bullpup, but that's a real let-down if the majority of the material used on the trigger/hammer group is non-metal.


Quoted:
Here are a few pics. of the Bolt group & Trigger Group after 240 rds.

As far as the twist rate just noted what it says in owners manual "    7" right hand".

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=47535

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=47538

6/13/2006 6:19:29 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
PLEASE tell me that's not a plastic hammer (white) and some kind of tan plastic piece inside a white plastic housing on a $2000 rifle? I love the looks of this bullpup, but that's a real let-down if the majority of the material used on the trigger/hammer group is non-metal.


Quoted:
Here are a few pics. of the Bolt group & Trigger Group after 240 rds.

As far as the twist rate just noted what it says in owners manual "    7" right hand".

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=47535

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=47538




Other than the pins, springs, and drop safety, almost all of the hammer group is plastic.
The white ejector thingy is also plastic... The "pros" say it'll work just fine, as "HSLD operators" around the world have used it but keep in mind that the AUG has had over 25 years in the market (as has Glock) and look at the number of iterations/changes that have been made. The FS2000 was developed in 2000-2001.
6/13/2006 6:55:34 AM EDT
[#48]
They AUG also has a polymer hammer, its rated to go 80K rounds. I've not heard of any failures.
6/13/2006 7:03:03 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
They AUG also has a polymer hammer, its rated to go 80K rounds. I've not heard of any failures.



Steyr didn't make the FS2000 hammer group, although the resemblance is remarkable. My PS90 hammer has a few scratches/wear marks that indicate something brushed over it and impacting the firing pin, but nothing serious yet.
6/13/2006 7:10:49 AM EDT
[#50]
One part that I don't like at all, is that "toilet-seat lid" that is behind the rear sight.

I didn't know that it had plastic fire-control-group parts either.
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