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Posted: 5/18/2005 2:22:46 PM EDT
| I'm looking to put a scope on my M1A. I'd like to have a 30mm scope. I've looked at the Super Sniper, the Burris and an off-brand called Barska. The Barska seems to have everything one would look for in a 30mm scope. A 50mm objective, glass etched illumniated mil-dot reticle, and variable power, for under $300. But I've never heard of them. The Super Sniper looks great but doesn't have variable power or illuminated reticle. The Burris is real nice too but would be stretching my budget at almost $700. How important to anyone is a variable power scope? Or illuminated reticle? Do any of you out there have experience with Barska? Are they reputable? Any and all advice welcome. Thanks. |
| From what I've read, Barska optics are made in China. I think I've narrowed it down to either the Super Sniper or the Burris. I'm attracted to the Burris warranty, and variable power. I wish that the Super Sniper had variable power. It would make my decision easier. How important is variable power? In a fixed power scope, what can anyone reccomend, 10x. 16x, or 20x. Thanks again for any input. |
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How important to anyone is a variable power scope? Consider how field of view shrinks with mag power, and finding the target does not get easier... If a 4x shows 30ft at 100, a 10x is closer to 12ft. Fixed is one less thing to break, simplifies range estimation. Variable opens your shooting options for wooded hunting and paper punching. |
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The old saying about looking too good to be true really applies to shooting optics. As advised above, stick with a name brand. Lower tier manufacturers prey upon folks that want all of the "tactical" bells and whistles but can't afford to get a Leupold, S&B, or US Optics scope. Seems like a bargain, but you are paying 5-10x's what that scope is probably worth. You would be better served by either a fixed power Super Sniper in that price range, or save up a couple hundred more dollars and look at a Leupold Long Range model, a Burris, or a Nikon. My personal experience has been limited to Leupold and Zeiss, but I have heard good things about the Burris and Nikon scopes. Hope that helps. |
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At what type and size of targets will you be shooting? At what ranges will you be shooting? Under what light conditions will you be shooting? Will you be making fast "snap" shots, or will you be shooting more deliberately? Consider these questions, and prioritize your answers. IMHO, it is a mistake to economize when buying scopes and mounts. Again, IMHO, it is a mistake to begin using a scope unless you have first mastered and sighted-in the iron sights on a weapon. Once you have accurately described the anticipated end use, the scope you need will become more apparent. In short, define your goal, and the tool needed to accomplish that goal is also defined. |
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I'm pretty much just a casual shooter. I don't shoot in matches or competition. I usually shoot paper targets in the 100 to 300 meter ranges during daylight hours. I don't intend to be making any fast shots, just more well aimed deliberate shots. I've been shooting at the 100 to 300 meter ranges with iron sights from the prone and sometimes standing supported. At 300 meters I've been keeping between four and six inch groups. Which, I think, is pretty good for me. I'm satisfied with just being able to hit a man sized target aiming center mass. I don't feel that at this point it would be wise for me to invest a lot of money in scope. But I don't want to buy a piece of junk either. I will be relatively new to shooting a scoped rifle, I do have some limited experience though. I'm leaning farther and farther toward the Super Sniper scope. Everything I've researched about it has been pretty positive. So..if you've read this far, and knowing a little about my shooting experience, do you think I would be well served by a Super Sniper scope? Thanks for all of the advice so far. Sorry this post is so long, I tend to ramble. |
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I am not too familiar with the Super Sniper scope. It would seem that many buy it, and suggest it , as a decent, less-expensive alternative to what they would actually buy if they had the necessary money. I DO have some experience with the IOR Valdada M2 scope, and consider it considerably better than its $350 price tag would have you expect. I believe it compares well with Leupolds of roughly the same description costing as much as three times more. My experience here is with a Leupold VariX-III. This is not to say that the Leupold is over-priced; it is not. Rather, the IOR M2 is under-priced for what it delivers. DSA sells 'em, and other vendors, too. Check it out and compare. Given your description of your needs, I feel that the IOR scope would fit your wants nicely. |
| The Super Sniper scope has always got great reviews and is usually very well liked. I looked through one and it just didn't do anything for me. I'm not saying it was bad. I myself go with higher end Leupolds and Nightforce but that's me. As far as Barska goes ....all I can say is no no no. I doubt you'll need a illuminated reticle unless you do alot of low light shooting. I have yet to put the battery in and of my scopes with this feature, it's just not needed. Cheap scopes are now adding it as sales pitch. The way they add it to the scope mechanically it sucks and if you've ever turned one on it's like a red flashlight real cheap. For $700 you could buy a nice Leupold or Super sniper with money to spare. Yuo will regret buying the Barska. Variable power on a scope is left alone by a majority of shooters. Once you find a desired setting and zero the weapon there is little reason to change it. Decide what your intended target will require to see it clearly and buy a powered scope accordingly. 4.5-14 scopes fit that bill 90%+ of the time. You won't likely need a 24 or higher power scope, and if you do the cost goes up. you may find it cheaper to buy the hubble telescope and mount it on. |
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