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Posted: 6/15/2004 5:26:30 PM EDT

Is this a good defensive load? I'm specifically got the opportunity to buy a bunch of .45 ACP .230 grain for my glocks.

Posted: 6/15/2004 7:28:11 PM EDT

[#1]

It is a good design, although it is a little dated compared to newer, more effective offerings such as the Speer Gold Dot and Winchester XST. I've found it to be a very accurate and reliable round so I often use it in my pistols.

Posted: 6/15/2004 7:35:43 PM EDT

[#2]

I've had a heck of a time finding Gold Dots locally in .45. Everyone carries them for 9mm, but the only rounds for .45 seem to be hydoshocks. Pisses me off.

Posted: 6/15/2004 8:38:38 PM EDT

[#3]

Outdated? Maybe but how dead does someone have to be? Hydrashok's in the 230 Grn. .45 ACP is a first rate man stopper. We have experienced 5 one shot kills out of 7 shootings since we made the switch to them several years ago. Another was a 2 shot kill and the other lived but went down screaming like a little girl with a shot through his forearm. Of course, there is no substitute for shot placement.

You may be interested to know that with the incident where the guy was shot in the forearm, the shooting occured from about 9 feet away. The round went in and out shattering the radial bone in his left forearm . The bone was so dense and absorbed so much energy that the projectile was found on the floor where the guy was standing. I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself.

Posted: 6/15/2004 9:15:32 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Outdated? Maybe but how dead does someone have to be? Hydrashok's in the 230 Grn. .45 ACP is a first rate man stopper.

I said there are newer designs that are more effective, not that the HydraShok won't get the job done.

My Kimber is loaded with 230gr HydraShoks, for what it's worth.

Posted: 6/15/2004 9:25:05 PM EDT

[#5]

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Outdated? Maybe but how dead does someone have to be? Hydrashok's in the 230 Grn. .45 ACP is a first rate man stopper.
I said there are newer designs that are more effective, not that the HydraShok won't get the job done.

My Kimber is loaded with 230gr HydraShoks, for what it's worth.

I wasn't taking a swing at you. Hell, I ain't married to the round, just telling my experience with it. If Kreutzburg can get it in quantity and cheap, it would make a fine carry load.

Posted: 6/16/2004 9:09:52 AM EDT

[#6]

My father in law had a Hydro shock break his Berretta 96. We think it was loaded too hot. Just my theory. That defective pistol or the pistol can't handle the load. My brither in laws 96 eats em just fine though.

Posted: 6/16/2004 1:57:59 PM EDT

[#7]

My HK USP .45 Tactical is sitting back there with two mags loaded with HydraShoks right now.

Posted: 6/16/2004 5:32:55 PM EDT

[#8]

Don't have a .45 but my P226 and the wife's .38 are both stoked with Hydrashocks as I type. If they made a 9x18, I'd have several Makarovs stashed throughout the house with HS in them as well. I hear rumor that Cor-Bon is going to begin production of their 9x18 loads again. WOOHOO!

Sorry to get off track...

Posted: 6/16/2004 5:32:57 PM EDT

[#9]

I got 2 Wilson Combat 45's packed with Hydrashocks

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Posted: 6/17/2004 11:13:00 AM EDT

[#10]

One of the most shoking things about a hydra shok is how big of a flash it makes when you shoot it in little or no light. Wow!

Great loads though, I shoot them all the time.

Posted: 6/18/2004 9:09:23 PM EDT

[#11]

HydraShoks in .40SW are the standard duty load I carry in my Department. Our local Sheriffs Dept also carries .40 HydraShoks as standard.

Posted: 6/18/2004 9:41:20 PM EDT

[#12]

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It is a good design, although it is a little dated compared to newer, more effective offerings such as the Speer Gold Dot and Winchester XST.

Very true.

Self-Defense loads

Posted: 6/18/2004 10:30:30 PM EDT

[#13]

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My father in law had a Hydro shock break his Berretta 96. We think it was loaded too hot. Just my theory.

My guess was that his factory recoil spring was worn out, of just need to be replaced to a stronger spring. The factory springs are beyond on the weak side, and are designed to cycle even the lightest of loads. When you step up to a full load, over even a +P load, you need to change out the recoil spring to a stronger one to prevent the slide coming back too fast and cracking the frame.

To give you an idea, on my 92, I changed the 13 lbs spring to an 18lbs for +P loads (SMG ammo). This pistol has seen over 30,000 rounds of +P loads, and is still running strong.

Posted: 6/19/2004 6:48:41 PM EDT

[#14]

I like Win Ranger SXT (non +P), Speer Gold Dots, Rem Golden Saber, Fed Hydra Shok. In that order. Pretty much any 230gr hollowpoint is going to do a good job.

Posted: 6/21/2004 8:51:51 PM EDT

[#15]

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My father in law had a Hydro shock break his Berretta 96. We think it was loaded too hot. Just my theory.

My guess was that his factory recoil spring was worn out, of just need to be replaced to a stronger spring. The factory springs are beyond on the weak side, and are designed to cycle even the lightest of loads. When you step up to a full load, over even a +P load, you need to change out the recoil spring to a stronger one to prevent the slide coming back too fast and cracking the frame.

To give you an idea, on my 92, I changed the 13 lbs spring to an 18lbs for +P loads (SMG ammo). This pistol has seen over 30,000 rounds of +P loads, and is still running strong.

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it on. That's a nice cheap fix. I would have never thought of that. This is one of the reasons I love this site.

(2IDdoc tips hat to Dano523)

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