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Posted: 11/20/2003 7:53:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2003 1:17:28 PM EDT by thompsondd]
I am considering (thinking it out is as far as it has gotten) building a 'short barrel rifle' and was looking for some help/advice.

First, who is the registration done with? I am assuming it is the ATF, but their website blows and I haven't located (not saying it isn't there, I just haven't found it yet) any information.

Second, what part of the rifle is registered? Let me clarify. Let's use an AR15 for a hypothetical example. It is my understanding that I can swap uppers on a legal SBR. I can take off a 7" or 11.5" upper and slap on a 16" or 20". Correct? So, is it the lower that is the portion that is registered since the uppers are changeable (and the fact the lower has the serial number)?

Any drawbacks to registering a SBR? Can I sell it later if I need to/decide to or does the SBR become non-transferrable?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 11:56:46 AM EDT
You register it with the NFA. Only the lower is registered. You can sell it as an SBR or unregister it.

go here: http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIF1.html

and here:
http://www.titleii.com/
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:15:22 PM EDT
Thank you very much. I will read the links this evening. You definately answered the one question I was looking for that I didn't spell out; that it is the lower that is registered and that is can be unregistered.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 3:44:37 PM EDT
Make sure to check state and local laws and regs as well, just because the federal government allows it, doesn't mean that it's legal in your locale.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 4:12:26 PM EDT
Yeah, I had already taken care of that part. I am in GA (thank God). Gun laws, although they have tightened somewhat over the years, but comparitively, are still fairly conservative (thank God again!!).

For those wondering, here is state by state breakdown:

state MG SI SR SG AOW LBDD EXPDD Comments
AK Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
AL Y Y N N Y Y ?
AR Y Y Y Y Y Y ? (state registration of pistol
cal. MG's over .30)
AZ Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
CA Y N Y Y Y Y Y (requires discretionary and
rarely issued permit for mg, lbdd or expdd from state Dept. of
Justice; no AOW pen guns; C&R sg, sr only)
CO Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (requires state permit for
expdd)
CT Y Y Y Y Y Y ? (no select fire mg's-full
auto's only, after 1993 assault weapon ban, state registration of
mg's)
DE N N Y N Y Y N (no smooth bore pistol AOW's)
FL Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
GA Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (no incendiary expdd's)
HI N N N N N N N (A clean sweep!, the only
state like this)
IA N Y Y Y Y Y Y (only si, sr, sg, lbdd and
expdd designated as collector's items by the Comm'r of Public
Safety, basically the C&R list)
ID Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
IL N N N N Y ? N
IN Y Y Y N Y Y N
KS N N Y N Y Y ?
KY Y Y Y Y Y Y ?
LA Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (mg's require a permit to
purchase - war relics only; mg's, sr, si, sg and some expdd's
require a permit to purchase)
MA Y N Y Y Y Y N (license for mg's required)
MD Y Y Y Y Y Y N (mg's must be registered)
ME Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
MI Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (apparently approved form 4
suffices for "license" for mg, si or some expdd (bomb) despite AG
opinion reprinted in ATF Green Book; no incendiary expdd; C&R sr,
sg only)
MN Y N Y Y Y Y ? (C&R mg, sg only,
registration required)
MO Y N Y Y Y N N (C&R mg, sr, sg only to non
FFL holders, C&R FFL holders any mg, sr, sg)
MS Y N Y Y Y Y Y
MT Y N Y Y Y N N (pistol cal. mg's over .30
must be registered with state)
NE Y Y Y Y Y Y N
NC Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (sheriff's permit required
for mg's; must be FFL holder (including C&R) or must be for
"scientific or experimental purposes" for a mg, si, sr, sg lbdd
and expdd)
ND Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (fed. "licensees" required to
register mg's, si, expdd with state when possessed for
"protection or sale")
NH Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
NJ Y N Y N Y N N (mg requires discretionary and
rarely issued permit from state court)
NM Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
NV Y Y N N Y Y Y
NY N N N N ? Y N (some pen guns may be allowed)
OH Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
OK Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
OR Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (no incendiary expdd's)
PA Y Y Y Y Y Y N
RI N N N N Y Y ?
SC N Y N N Y Y ?
SD Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
TN Y Y Y Y Y Y ?
TX Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
UT Y Y Y Y Y Y Y
VA Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (state registration of all
mg's)
VT Y N Y Y Y Y Y
WA N Y N N Y Y N (silencer may not be used on a
gun)
WI Y Y Y Y Y Y Y (permit required for expdd, no
incendiary expdd's; no pistol cal mg's w/o permit)
WV Y Y Y Y Y Y ?
WY Y Y Y Y Y Y ?

KEY
MG - machine gun
SI - sound suppressor (silencer)
SR - short barreled rifle
SG - short shotgun
AOW - any other weapon
LBDD - large bore destructive device
EXPDD - explosive, incendiary or poison gas destructive device

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