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Posted: 6/2/2003 11:28:12 AM EDT
I want the looks of the Remington 700 vs, however it only comes in 308 and I want a 30-06 more ammo choices. how hard is it to get the barrel redone to 30-06 or find a replacement for this rifle?
Thanks
Ryan
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 12:05:39 PM EDT
I dont know how much it cost to get a gun rechambered so...

Have you thought about a Winchester Model 70 (these rifles arent quite on par with the 700 VS though). They have hundreds of configurations. The only one that has the "look" of a 700 VS in .30-06 is the Black Shadow model. The only thing is the it has a push bolt design.

It might be easier to get a different model of the Remington 700 and have it re-stocked with a McMillan (sp?) tactical stock.

Another thing if you have some money is to look at Sakos. These are pretty much the best bolt-action hunting rifles available for the price. Like a Weatherby but half the price. They dont have a tactical looking rifle in .30-06 but any of the 75 series rifles with a no. IV action are available in .30-06.



Wait for some more opinions though. I only own ONE commercial rifle. Everything else is military. ;)
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:07:23 PM EDT
Thats my problem also everything is military. Want to go with the 3006 over the 308 because of ammo options and cost.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 7:13:24 PM EDT
Dude, you read my mind. I myself am after a .30-06 Remington, and I love the look of the VS.

For stocks, I'm looking for either a VS or HS Precision M24 stock.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:45:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WaMag:
I want the looks of the Remington 700 vs, however it only comes in 308 and I want a 30-06 more ammo choices. how hard is it to get the barrel redone to 30-06 or find a replacement for this rifle?
Thanks
Ryan



More ammo choices? The .308 shoots everything the .30-06 does, and it's a more accurate round. I've seen guys at my club shooting 300 grain cast lead bullets with their .308 rifles, and they were some damn accurate guns.

To answer your original question though...Find yourself a Remington Sendero, or VS, in .25-06, or .270. Rip off the barrel, and screw on a .30cal barrel. Viola! Instant .30-06.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:14:58 AM EDT
it the 700 VS a short action?
if so a 30-06 will not fit.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:07:33 AM EDT
Have anybody ever shot a Remington 30-06 accelerator round?
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:12:28 AM EDT
the .308 is a Short Action
the 30.06 is a Long Action

thus, you can not rebarrel UP TO 30.06
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:49:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RobarSR60:
More ammo choices? The .308 shoots everything the .30-06 does, and it's a more accurate round. I've seen guys at my club shooting 300 grain cast lead bullets with their .308 rifles, and they were some damn accurate guns.



.30-06 can be/is just as accurate as .308. Its all about the ammo. This has already been covered before. Also .308 does not shoot "everthing" the .30-06 does.

If the man wants .30-06 let him get .30-06.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 12:13:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZRH:
Also .308 does not shoot "everthing" the .30-06 does...



Name one round that the .30-06 shoots, that the .308 won't.


If the man wants .30-06 let him get .30-06.


He wants a very specific 700, that Remington doesn't make. I offered an alternative.

Link Posted: 6/4/2003 7:58:07 PM EDT
The 308 doesnot have an accelerated rd. However the 30-30 and 3006 does. Having a 4000 fps rd it just cool.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 8:41:07 PM EDT
How about a juiced up 30-06 Ackley Improved!!!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:10:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 9:12:58 PM EDT by ZRH]

Originally Posted By RobarSR60:
He wants a very specific 700, that Remington doesn't make. I offered an alternative.



Um actually you offered a good way to get blown into a million bloody pieces [so what I exaggerate].

As to the one round thing. Besides what they have already mentioned. What do you mean by round? There is no .308 cartridge that has the EXACT same ballistics as a .30-06. If your talking about just bullets fine I agree.

[edits in brackets]
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 9:48:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 10:27:02 PM EDT by RobarSR60]

Originally Posted By WaMag:
The 308 doesnot have an accelerated rd. However the 30-30 and 3006 does. Having a 4000 fps rd it just cool.



The accelerator rounds are interchangeable between .30cal cartridges. They'll fit into a .30-.30, .308, or a .30-06. Look here. They're fun to play with, but they're not accurate at all. I couldn't get them down past 2 MOA. That's just not acceptable accuracy, especially if you're shooting them at p-dogs that're a few hundred yards away. they do scream though. 4000+ fps was very easily achieved.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:02:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 10:18:45 PM EDT by RobarSR60]

Originally Posted By ZRH:

Originally Posted By RobarSR60:
He wants a very specific 700, that Remington doesn't make. I offered an alternative.



Um actually you offered a good way to get blown into a million bloody pieces [so what I exaggerate].



Try some experimentation when you get the chance. The 220s I loaded up in my .308 (non-compressed loads, mind you), hung with my friend's 220gr .30-06 loads, right out to 600 yards (our maximum distance). The .30-06 load has a little more energy behind it, but the .308 load was just as accurate. I stand by my original statement. The .308 will do anything the .30-06 will, and will accommodate the same bullets.

WaMag's original statement was..."I want the looks of the Remington 700 vs, however it only comes in 308 and I want a 30-06 more ammo choices. how hard is it to get the barrel redone to 30-06 or find a replacement for this rifle?" I can prove this wrong, and have. The only thing the .30-06 has over the .308, is more energy at extended ranges. It's just as accurate. And in case nobody has looked lately, .30-06 ammo is more expensive than .308.

I have no problem with WaMag getting a .30-06. I have one, and I love it. But to make a sweeping statement like the .30-06 has more ammo choices is wrong, and he needs to be educated about it. That's all.

Edit...The key to all of this is reloading. I used to spend upwards of $2000 a year on match ammo. Two years ago, I broke down and bought reloading equipment. After the initial $600 for the equipment (press, scales, dies, etc.), and another $400 on various reloading components (powders, primers, bullets), I haven't spent a dime. I've gone from spending $2000 a year, to less than $200 a year. Plus, I get the versatility to "cook-up" some neat loads of my own.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:33:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2003 10:35:51 PM EDT by ZRH]

and it's a more accurate round.


Thats is what I was concentrating on.

Actually the price is about the same. Theres still loads of Danish, Korean etc. milsurp floating around.

The problem is that neither of us are wrong. lol.

BTW Sakos are still great rifles. He did say "look" was important.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 10:52:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ZRH:

and it's a more accurate round.

Thats is what I was concentrating on.



That's just my point, the 06 isn't more accurate. The .308 is the more accurate of the two rounds. That's why the USMC went to it.

As for the rifle, I agree with you. The Sako's the one to go with. My 06 is a Sako 75, and it's a tack-driver. Much more so than my friend's "massaged" Remington Sendero. If it's looks that he wants, the Sako gets my vote.
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