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3/25/2003 1:14:12 PM EDT
16" barrel or 20"? I want to get a Model 94 in .45 Long Colt to go along with my Ruger Blackhawk in .45 LC. I would like to hear you all's take on the pro and cons of the 16" barrel versus the 20". I think there would be a pretty significant accuracy and velocity difference between the two. This would be for general use like on the ranch and just to have.....I know we all understand the "to have" part of my desire for this particular type of firearm. I'd also plan on putting Ghost ring/peep sights on it.

Thanks.
3/25/2003 2:48:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm not an expert, but lets see now. I believe that the most efficient barrel lenght for pistol ammo is around 9 inches because in pistol ammo all of the powder is burnt by then and there would be no more gains in velocity, and I've heard that there is actually a slight decrease. So if it were me I would probably go with the 16" BBL.
3/25/2003 2:51:29 PM EDT
[#2]
I have an older(pre-silly safety)Winchester 16" Trapper in .45Colt. I also have a Ackley AO ghost ring sight on it. For what it is, it shoots well. I like the ghost ring a lot better over the Williams type. The AO is pretty low profile and well made. Doesnt look out of place on the rifle and doesnt snag on things. I dont think these rifles, in either barrel length are much more than 50 yard guns. Not that you cant hit things farther, I just think its pushing it with the caliber. I had one in .44mag too, and feel the same about it. If you keep your ranges reasonable, I think they are fine. They are handy little rifles and are a lot of fun to shoot.
3/25/2003 6:40:24 PM EDT
[#3]
You do know that the 45 long colt was designed to be a black powder round.  The working pressure of the 45 long round is only around 18,000 psi, verses the 44 Mag at 45,000 psi.

Granted that some weapons allow the 45 long to be loaded hotter, but for the most part, it's just a huge case will very little gun powder (weight).


3/25/2003 8:04:48 PM EDT
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Quoted:
You do know that the 45 long colt was designed to be a black powder round.  The working pressure of the 45 long round is only around 18,000 psi, verses the 44 Mag at 45,000 psi.

Granted that some weapons allow the 45 long to be loaded hotter, but for the most part, it's just a huge case will very little gun powder (weight).





Hadn't heard that. Only thing is the Model 94 is not available in 44 mag only 44 Rem. however, it is available in both guns in 357 Mag. so... comments?
3/26/2003 12:31:26 AM EDT
[#5]
My one Model 94 Trapper was a 44mag. The 45 Colt can be loaded pretty close to 44 mag power, depending on the gun. In its factory loadings, its just not loaded that hot, due to the older guns out there. Rugers will take most anyting you can give them.
3/26/2003 10:42:47 AM EDT
[#6]

I've been looking at the Win 94 Trapper in .357 to go along w/ a SW 686 in .357.  The new one's have a tang safety.

Anyone have any experience w/ this gun/caliber?
3/27/2003 5:59:43 PM EDT
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Hadn't heard that. Only thing is the Model 94 is not available in 44 mag only 44 Rem. however, it is available in both guns in 357 Mag. so... comments?



Umm...  .44 mag is .44 Rem. is .44 Rem. Mag...  All the same.

Kent
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