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Posted: 12/14/2002 7:50:56 PM EDT
OK, seriously, I have a friend that wants to buy his first and only handgun. He has no idea what he wants. He just wants a gun.

I suggested the standard S&W 4-inch .38 special/.357 magnum. You guys have any better suggestions and reasons for a different choice?
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 8:21:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2002 8:21:53 PM EDT by sniper1az]
If you are going to purchase one handgun to bet YOUR LIFE on then get one that has a reputation for ultimate reliability. And get one in a caliber that works... no "pimp guns or calibers".

I recommend a Sig P-220 in 45 ACP.
Cough up the dough or your friend will regret it !!
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 8:27:13 PM EDT
Well, normally I would suggest a 1911 of one type or another, but I believe you are on the right track going with a mid-sized wheel gun. Pretty much idiot proof for the guy that might not train as much as he should. pull the trigger, if it doesn't go bang, pull it again and try a fresh round. It doesn't get much easier than that.

Just my .02

Dirk
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 8:38:03 PM EDT
Yep....S&W 686 4inch .357 Like Col.Cooper says,"Anything else is just a contraption."
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 8:45:59 PM EDT
If my life depended on it:
Glock of course.
FREE
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 8:51:12 PM EDT
I would recommend either a 38/357magnum or a Glock 17.

The revolver is a better choice for a beginner, but if for some reason he wants an auto, go with the Glock. Easy to take down and reliable.
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 9:57:48 PM EDT
Another vote for the 686.
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 10:11:02 PM EDT
The choice would be totally drive by the budget available for the purchase. To get in cheap, I'd go with a GP-100 Ruger in .357 or one of their P-Series pistols. For practical reasons, I prefer a 1911. A Charles Daily model could get you in cheap, while Kimber would be a mid-range purchase and Wilson the ultimate 1911 puchase,
Link Posted: 12/14/2002 10:15:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:17:06 AM EDT
Today 12/15/02 is the last day to buy a S&W centerfire and recieve a free range bag.

OSA
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:35:06 AM EDT
Glock, of course.

Why would you put him 20 years behind the curve with a wheel gun?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:38:23 AM EDT
SIG P226 in 9mm...No manual safety to mess with, 15rd mags plentiful for around $50 each, easily controllable round for the newbie, ammo is readily availabe regardless of locale (international, etc.).
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 7:48:47 AM EDT
1911

Flat and easy to conceal (including the magazines). Parts available everywhere (and one of the few handguns I can detail strip to the last part without worries). Ammunition available anywhere. Reliable magazines are cheap enough that I can leave spares in the center console of my vehicle and not worry about someone stealing my $60+ hi-cap. Small enough grip and short,light trigger that even my daughters can handle effectively. Most of all, its the type of gun Ive mainly carried since I was old enough.

My second choice would be my SIG P226.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 8:24:04 AM EDT
I would get the S&W 686+ 4", 7 shots on the same frame . I have one and of all my handguns it is my favorite pistol.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 8:32:37 AM EDT
S&W Model 66 4" .357mag

Not as heavy as the 686 and still has the same punch power.

I have seen pictures of Seal Team 6 training with Model 66's. Why ? Because they are quick to point and reliable as hell.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 8:35:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 455SD:
OK, seriously, I have a friend that wants to buy his first and only handgun. He has no idea what he wants. He just wants a gun.




LMAO. Has anyone ever bought one and only one gun? I don't think it's possible.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 8:57:33 AM EDT
Forget buying for the moment. Take him to the range and let him shoot as many different pistols as possible. Let him try semis and revolvers, larger calibers and smaller, single and double actions, striker fired and hammer fired handguns.

The best gun (although it will surely be a first gun not an only gun) is the one that feels best and that he shoots best.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 9:02:13 AM EDT
Definately a Glock.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 10:08:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By USMC_LB:
S&W Model 66 4" .357mag

Not as heavy as the 686 and still has the same punch power.

I have seen pictures of Seal Team 6 training with Model 66's. Why ? Because they are quick to point and reliable as hell.

Yep; not only that, but Smiths are easy as hell to do a trigger job on, and you get your choice of two calibers of ammo; 38s for plinking/practice, and full-on 357s for the rough stuff. I shoot only 357s in mine, though.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 10:21:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Power:

Originally Posted By 455SD:
OK, seriously, I have a friend that wants to buy his first and only handgun. He has no idea what he wants. He just wants a gun.




LMAO. Has anyone ever bought one and only one gun? I don't think it's possible.



I didn't say only one gun. This guy has several rifles and shotguns, now he wants a handgun for backup when hunting and general home/self defense. He has plenty of experience shooting, but isn't really sure what one handgun would suit his needs. Because he wants to use one gun for everything I figured a 4-inch .357 would be the natural choice.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 10:30:11 AM EDT
HK USP 45
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 10:30:46 AM EDT
or a HK p7m8 9mm
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 10:51:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SS109:
I would recommend either a 38/357magnum or a Glock 17.

The revolver is a better choice for a beginner, but if for some reason he wants an auto, go with the Glock. Easy to take down and reliable.



i agree,

why would a person want only one handgun?
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 11:51:02 AM EDT
Your friend can't go wrong with the 4" .357mag for a revolver.

If he wants an auto, I would go with the Glock 20(10mm), 21(.45), or 31(.357sig).
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 1:25:11 PM EDT
Fools, all of you. The correct answer is:


Mauser c1896 Broomhandle (model 1930 is okay if you're cheap).

If it's good enough for Winston Churchill, the Kaiser and Han Solo, it's good enough for your friend.

Plus - finding ammo for it can become a hobby in itself!
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 2:43:33 PM EDT
A Ruger SP101 DAO in 357 Magnum

It isn't the BEST handgun for home defense, but since the restriction is only ONE handgun: I say get this Ruger. It is small enough to use as a carry gun. And while not the best for home defense..it will do the job.

IF it is to be a HOME defense handgun..then a Ruger Stainless Steel GP100 with a 6 inch barrel would be a good choice.

S&W will have a better trigger. But the Rugers are stronger and will last longer.


Another possibility is to get a Wesson Revolver. These revolvers have the ability to allow the owner to easily swap barrels. So they are rather versatile.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 3:51:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 455SD:
I didn't say only one gun. This guy has several rifles and shotguns, now he wants a handgun for backup when hunting and general home/self defense....Because he wants to use one gun for everything I figured a 4-inch .357 would be the natural choice.



That changes everything then. 4" .357 IMHO.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 5:28:18 PM EDT
A Smith & Wesson K or L frame 357 magnum with a 3 inch barrel and round butt configuration. These are probably the most versatile handguns ever made. They are good for home or personal defense gun, relatively easy to carry and conceal. Not bad as a back up or short range hunter. They won't do anything great but it will do everything well.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:43:22 PM EDT
I agree with the 686 for your friend. A decent wheelgun is a good choice for the person who just 'wants a gun'.

For me it would be a Kimber Series I with spare parts kits, McCormick magazines and a .22 conversion unit.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:47:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FALShootist:
A Smith & Wesson K or L frame 357 magnum with a 3 inch barrel and round butt configuration. These are probably the most versatile handguns ever made. They are good for home or personal defense gun, relatively easy to carry and conceal. Not bad as a back up or short range hunter. They won't do anything great but it will do everything well.



This was exactly my way of thinking. I don't think this guy is looking for the latest and greatest, just a good handgun that works.

Thanks for the replies.
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 6:48:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/15/2002 8:26:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2002 8:27:22 PM EDT by BusMaster007]
Seriously:

www.ruger-firearms.com/rvpages/gpf331.html

(sorry for the red X)

A blued 3" medium-large frame .357 with fixed sights that's tougher than shit and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
A leather holster from HighNoon or someone is a MUST.
Pancake style that rides high so it's comfortable and the guy will use it without having to buy a new wardrobe for IWB style holsters.
This is a great choice for one handgun (to start with).
I hope you consider this one.
Good luck.
Link Posted: 12/16/2002 7:23:29 PM EDT
Ok--
Thanks for all the replies and input, BUT, my genius friend ended up buying a cheap, FIE, buffalo or something .22 revolver from somewhere for $50 and is just tickled pink!!

Ever wonder why they even ask?
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