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Posted: 4/25/2002 10:47:33 AM EDT
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is......? HUNTER FROM ARGENTINA OUT. CHECK THE HANDGUNS FORUM |
No it is a standard lightweight 16" upper. Sent it back and they returned it saying nothing was wrong wit.. Have polished the chamber, replaced the extractor spring, etc. |
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Another vote for Hesse. This is something I only usually tell my closest friends and family members looking to buy an AR or put one together..... "If you buy a receiver from Hesse... I'll kick you in the nuts". Seriously though... These guys really suck. Poor machining. Holes don't line up. Holes are not to spec (Too small) etc.... A little more money gets you a Rock River Arms and life is absolutely beautiful. |
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Never order parts from M&A parts. They are "cheap" in every sense of the word. First AR-15 i built i had to replace nearly every major component with OLY parts just to get the thing to work right. Why do people hate Olympic arms? I used to own one and it ran fine. Shot just as well as any Colt. Hmmmmm...... lib |
It's not everyone. You will find the same small group complaining everywhere they go. In fact this is true for most AR manufacturers, whether it is Bushmaster, Armalite, Colt, etc.. The customer gets pissed off and they are anti anything said company makes. Their expierence is supposed to be everyone elses and they try to convince everyone to the way their world is. Much like the Colt vs. Bushmaster crowd. Fun to watch them say mine is better, no mine is better, No mine... They will, no doubt, start complaining here... mark |
That is the ugliest POS I have seen in along time. My vote goes for Hesse though! |
| Hesse rifles have the worst rep, but I dont think they are even in business anymore. ASA is a close 2nd, I'm surprised they are still in business. Century put out some rifles that had new cast lowers and surplus/demilled uppers that seemed to have lots of problems. The Oly plinker had lots of problems. |
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troy, the century built ar's i've looked at have all had cast dpms lowers...speaking of which; i have a 4 digit dpms cast pre-ban. many rounds and the lower works fine, looks like new. the absolute worst ar's (for function) i have owned have been colt blue labels from the '93-'94 era. colt was cranking out some crap back then. (rush to beat the ban?) |
I think we've got a winner..... HUNTER FROM ARGENTINA OUT. CHECK THE HANDGUNS FORUM |
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I have never owned or shot a Hesse. BUT, Olympic is the crappyist gun and service I ever experienced firsthand. My buddy bought one, the comp came loose and was blasted downrange on the second mag. We took it to the local gunshow where a fat idiot named Tom Spithauler from the Oly factory informed him,( in front of me), that they "are installed loosely in case you want to remove them, and what you did is abuse so no the warranty does not cover it." Olympic Arms sucks to this day. |
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hmmm do I need to tighten my comp on my Oly? but I DO AGREE that Olys are iffy! being new to AR15s, I bought one (good price, $700). later I noticed the upper was WAY TOO LOOSE!!! not to mention there are dings/machining marks on the recievers. hell even the olympic arms engraving is sh*tty because of the inconsistency of it: it starts SHALLOW on 1 end going way DEEP going into the other. obviously the gun was not on a perfect horizontal plane when the engraving was done. I know Oly will not replace my upper for a tighter fitting one (it's not a functional defect, and lack of response from Oly's own board), so I took my lower to a gun show & bought a tight fitting stripped upper, hired a gunsmith to do the swap. I'm satisfied w/the gun for now. it's a totally DIFFERENT gun in terms of handling & feeling (rock tight vs hanging loose). but it costed me MORE then what I would have spent on a Bushmaster, in the end. That I am NOT happy with. I thought about selling it (& buying a BM) at a big loss before I bought the stripped upper, but I could NOT, in good conscience, sell a gun in that condition (loose upper). obviously they need better QUALITY CONTROL. I still look at Olys when I go to gunshows, they are a HIT-OR-MISS item. some are just like my gun: loose upper, noticable dings on them. some are reasonably tight & no noticable dings. buyer beware. from my observation, most BMs are tight & ALL Armilites are tight. but having read this forum for a while it seems BMs have their own set of problems ;-) but I will add that my Oly has never mal-functioned on me, which is good. very good. obviously functionality is more important than cosmetics, but it would be nice to have BOTH.
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I bought an Oly PCR 02 lower at a gun show because it was cheap. It also has a lot of casting pits and uneven stamping (1/2 lion) on it, it's about the ugliest lower I've ever seen. The black paint doesn't match with my uppers, but I don't much care about that. It went together fine and works well with DPMS parts and BM upper, so I don't have any real complaints. I have seen several Oly AR's at shows, including the Plinker, and just from looking at them I'm not encouraged. The charging handle is so flimsy you can twist it 90 degrees, the bolt looks like it was milled by dragging it across a cinder block, and the whole thing feels loose. I think there are better places to spend one's $700. |
If your friend wants to sell his Norinco furniture, let me know. |
| My Bushy is about to go back to the factory for the 3rd time and it has under 1000 rounds through it.I can't afford to keep paying shipping.I don't want to off it to some other poor soul so I will probable have BM give it a clean bill of health and trade it in on something else.Everyone 'raves' about BM but I must have got the 'bad one'. |
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