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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2022 12:59:25 PM EDT
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It is odd that they would put the activation button on the right side. Great if you're left handed I suppose and your right hand is going to be on the rail. Not so great if you're right handed.
The lack of an inability to use standard crane aftermarket switches also is a negative, especially for that kind of cost. Fingers crossed and holding out hope that the EOTech LAM is VCSEL and high quality. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 9:50:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: It is odd that they would put the activation button on the right side. Great if you're left handed I suppose and your right hand is going to be on the rail. Not so great if you're right handed. The lack of an inability to use standard crane aftermarket switches also is a negative, especially for that kind of cost. Fingers crossed and holding out hope that the EOTech LAM is VCSEL and high quality. I have medium sized hands and hitting the fire button as a right handed shooter is not an issue. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2022 11:36:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: I have medium sized hands and hitting the fire button as a right handed shooter is not an issue. That's good to hear, but it's still an odd side to place it on. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2022 11:43:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: I have medium sized hands and hitting the fire button as a right handed shooter is not an issue. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 3:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: That's good to hear, but it's still an odd side to place it on. You're thinking too hard about it. Have you actually tried it out? |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 4:59:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yeet-Cannon]
[#6]
Black and tan are IN STOCK.
Got both of my Xe from them. https://nvincorporated.com/product/wilcox-raid-xe/ |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 9:44:20 AM EDT
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I honestly wonder how much my FP XE would fetch. The civilian models are nearly just as good for my use.
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Posted: 11/17/2022 9:57:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sveesix: I honestly wonder how much my FP XE would fetch. The civilian models are nearly just as good for my use. I bet you someone would pay NGAL pricing for one. $5K? Maybe 5.5K. Do itttttt. But yeah, the civi RAID is insane. My black one arrives tomorrow. 
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:07:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: I bet you someone would pay NGAL pricing for one. $5K? Maybe 5.5K. Do itttttt. But yeah, the civi RAID is insane. My black one arrives tomorrow. I just feel like it is overkill for my use haha. Would rather buy another Civ and packet the extra few K. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:09:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sveesix: I just feel like it is overkill for my use haha. Would rather buy another Civ and packet the extra few K. Glynn at NVI has tan and black in stock right now.
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Glynn at NVI has tan and black in stock right now. Yeah I’d want to sell the FP first though. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:44:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sveesix: Yeah I’d want to sell the FP first though. Post it on one of the FB pages. I bet it's sold within 24 hours
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2022 11:37:42 AM EDT
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It's good to see them starting to turn up on retailer's websites for sale.
This is a huge win for civilians. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 9:02:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2022 12:18:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: topgunpilot20]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sveesix: I honestly wonder how much my FP XE would fetch. The civilian models are nearly just as good for my use. I feel the same away about the MAWL. I've compared the C1+ and DA side by side. Is the DA brighter? Sure. Is it an extra $2k brighter? Definitely not. I do wish the laser was brighter on the highest illuminator setting of the C1+, but again not enough to spend that much extra. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2022 11:31:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: It is odd that they would put the activation button on the right side. Great if you're left handed I suppose and your right hand is going to be on the rail. Not so great if you're right handed. The lack of an inability to use standard crane aftermarket switches also is a negative, especially for that kind of cost. Fingers crossed and holding out hope that the EOTech LAM is VCSEL and high quality. I mirrored your perception of the proprietary port on the XE but I have to say my view has definitely changed. The fact of the matter is, Wilcox had to step away from the standard crane/NATO plug and resort to a Fischer style connection with enough pins to conversely foster enough circuits to have things like white light/vis override while also being able to program some of the raid functions using the remote switch. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2022 11:34:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pyle_Made_Sgt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: It's good to see them starting to turn up on retailer's websites for sale. This is a huge win for civilians. To be clear, the eye safe models are what most are buying currently and is what’s in stock at nvinc. Full power class 3 bravo units are still restricted to .mil/LE sales only. So far we’ve only seen black FP units hitting dealers, no one has a tan fp unit as far as I’m aware with the exception of govt agencies as Wilcox did just finish fulfilling a big contract of tan/red vis units. |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 12:25:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yeet-Cannon]
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Full power PEQ-15 vs civilian RAID-Xe. Probably the best comparison vid on the interwebs right now for these.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Mbp3xJVYdsuCf4VbsxzPb9Y4gjhNSgd4NDMqt7eyLRusDfW4wAwj2dC6VrU5wvKBl&id=100068931985031&mibextid=Nif5oz |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 9:41:58 AM EDT
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Where is everyone snagging their XE’s from?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2022 1:21:07 PM EDT
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I'm waiting to hear more about the EOTech VCSEL, but if the EOTech isn't going to come out in 2023 for some reason than I'll go for the expensive RAID Xe in 2023 or if the AID Xe is vastly superior in performance than I'll go with it.
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Posted: 12/6/2022 10:09:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: Where is everyone snagging their XE’s from? Got both of mine from Nightvision Inc. Unfortunately Glynn said it'll be around 6 months before he gets more civilian RAID-Xe. Apparently Wilcox got a huge contract for RAIDs. Keep an eye on Nocturnality Gear, HCC Tactical and Kosher Surplus for civi RAIDs that trickle out. Also- For those who have IG, one of the best comparison vids I've seen- https://www.instagram.com/p/ClyfRdKr5WH/?igshid=YzdkMWQ2MWU= |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 10:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: I'm waiting to hear more about the EOTech VCSEL, but if the EOTech isn't going to come out in 2023 for some reason than I'll go for the expensive RAID Xe in 2023 or if the AID Xe is vastly superior in performance than I'll go with it. Don't count on the Eotech OGL being $2K or under if it's using VSCEL tech. I want to be wrong tho. With that said - they really suck at getting new products out. Was waiting on their EFLX and it finally hit shelves 10 months after when it was supposed to be available. Something to keep in mind. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Don't count on the Eotech OGL being $2K or under if it's using VSCEL tech. I want to be wrong tho. With that said - they really suck at getting new products out. Was waiting on their EFLX and it finally hit shelves 10 months after when it was supposed to be available. Something to keep in mind. Time will tell. However, with SHOT Show 2023 so close now, just a little over a month as of this post, I want to wait to see what EOTech will and can share with us. I'd hate to purchase the RAID only to learn that I could have just waited four months and had a similar item at a much lower cost. I've made that mistake before and lived to regret it. Plus, although believe me I'm very eager, it might be worth it for me to wait on both honestly and see how they hold up in terms of reliability and performance. I admit, I have a bit of a problem with patience and like to have the latest and greatest, but I'm trying to be a more patient and measured man. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:23:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TNW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Got both of mine from Nightvision Inc. Unfortunately Glynn said it'll be around 6 months before he gets more civilian RAID-Xe. Apparently Wilcox got a huge contract for RAIDs. Keep an eye on Nocturnality Gear, HCC Tactical and Kosher Surplus for civi RAIDs that trickle out. Also- For those who have IG, one of the best comparison vids I've seen- https://www.instagram.com/p/ClyfRdKr5WH/?igshid=YzdkMWQ2MWU= Thank you! May start looking into selling my FP PEQ15 to fund it. I have no idea what they go for these days though. Is it one of those things that I need to be ready to pounce on when I find one? |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 3:17:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yeet-Cannon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: Thank you! May start looking into selling my FP PEQ15 to fund it. I have no idea what they go for these days though. Is it one of those things that I need to be ready to pounce on when I find one? The RAID Xe are selling out pretty quick ever since word on them got out. I'd definitely pounce when you see one in stock. Full power PEQ-15 sell for $1200 beat up and salty, to $2400 for brand new in wrapper. Mfg date also determines value as well as how the illuminator looks. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/19/2022 9:04:00 AM EDT
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Anybody know if the emitters on the Xe will clear the rail when mounted in the recessed portion of the Cloud Defensive COR?
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Posted: 12/19/2022 4:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-: Anybody know if the emitters on the Xe will clear the rail when mounted in the recessed portion of the Cloud Defensive COR? Can't help you there but can tell you an MBUS Pro front sight *barely* obstructs the lasers. Maybe you can run the numbers on the height of an MBUS pro compared to the cutout in the COR. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2022 3:45:29 PM EDT
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@TNVC_Augee
Any news from Wilcox on the tan 3 bravo units? There may not be much news right now being so close to shot show but just wanted to ask. Thanks! |
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USA
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Can't help you there but can tell you an MBUS Pro front sight *barely* obstructs the lasers. Maybe you can run the numbers on the height of an MBUS pro compared to the cutout in the COR. Thanks, cutout is .237" deep on the COR and Magpul lists the MBUS Pro front sight at .43" above the rail when folded so I guess it should be fine. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2022 11:22:34 PM EDT
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Just received my full power tan/red vis raid XE today. Super stoked! Wilcox definitely learned a lot of things from the raid x and improved upon them. Last November when production of the raid x was discontinued and my order was changed to an XE I was pretty salty. But I’m definitely glad I waited! Going to test against my MAWL-DA, results will be interesting to say the least…
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Posted: 1/1/2023 8:17:30 AM EDT
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I am on waitlist for these as well
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:25:55 PM EDT
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Has anyone compared the US Night Visions Designate IR-V to the RAID-Xe?
Since both use VCSEL, I'd be interested to see how the $1700 dollar Designate IR-V compares to the $3K+ RAID-Xe. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:34:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Has anyone compared the US Night Visions Designate IR-V to the RAID-Xe? Since both use VCSEL, I'd be interested to see how the $1700 dollar Designate IR-V compares to the $3K+ RAID-Xe. If anyone wants to send me their Raid I'd be happy to do the comparison 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 11:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pyle_Made_Sgt: Just received my full power tan/red vis raid XE today. Super stoked! Wilcox definitely learned a lot of things from the raid x and improved upon them. Last November when production of the raid x was discontinued and my order was changed to an XE I was pretty salty. But I’m definitely glad I waited! Going to test against my MAWL-DA, results will be interesting to say the least… How the hell did you get a full power XE? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 11:59:30 PM EDT
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So are the raid xe illuminators better than on the mawls?
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Posted: 1/4/2023 12:44:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Spyider]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kits4: So are the raid xe illuminators better than on the mawls? From what I gathered from youtube vids and what others have said ... yes only because you can focus the beam. I still prefer the switchology and simplicity of the MAWL though |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 12:52:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kits4: So are the raid xe illuminators better than on the mawls? Yes. The output of my civ RAID-Xe was better than that of my MAWL. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 12:53:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: How the hell did you get a full power XE? Any LEO can get full power RAIDs and NGALs depending on the dealer. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:38:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Any LEO can get full power RAIDs and NGALs depending on the dealer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Originally Posted By voodochild: How the hell did you get a full power XE? Any LEO can get full power RAIDs and NGALs depending on the dealer. Very interesting. Have a source/dealer? |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 4:48:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chR15]
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Posted: 1/4/2023 5:22:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spyider: From what I gathered from youtube vids and what others have said ... yes only because you can focus the beam. I still prefer the switchology and simplicity of the MAWL though I’ve not found any need to focus a MAWL beam. Press the right button, get the right output. Problem solved. Prefer the Raid form factor though. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2023 1:31:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild: How the hell did you get a full power XE? I ordered mine 19 months ago with .mil credentials. I must say after comparing this to my MAWL DA, it definitely gives BE Meyers a run for their money. I still love the rapid switchology of the MAWL out of the box, but once I figure out the programming of the raid I’ll set it up just the same way (yes the raid can do that) and still have fine tuning adjustments to get the pointer/illum just right. Love both lasers, but for a general purpose LAM I think the trophy goes to the RAID, it’s programmability and adjustability are just far too versatile. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2023 11:02:12 PM EDT
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Might end up with a smaller white light body. I like the position of the click, but it’s a big shadow with the 40deg IR on.
 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2023 11:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yeet-Cannon: Yes. The output of my civ RAID-Xe was better than that of my MAWL. My MAWLs illuminator definitely takes the cake over the RAID. Granted I’m comparing both full powers. The raid is bright, clear and adjustable which is sweet. But the MAWL DA just does it all with a 150mw peak illuminator output. The RAID illuminator also has a bit of that weird halo around it when adjusting to a narrow illuminator setting. Not near as bad as it is on the X but you can tell it’s still there. Not a game changer but worth noting in comparison I suppose. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:08:20 PM EDT
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Yeet Cannon gave me a great photo of a mlok Modbutton and the clearance on the weak side of a Raid XE.
Does anyone have a Unity Hotbutton mlok? I’d like to know if it can fit up against a Raid XE. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tcmass: Yeet Cannon gave me a great photo of a mlok Modbutton and the clearance on the weak side of a Raid XE. Does anyone have a Unity Hotbutton mlok? I’d like to know if it can fit up against a Raid XE. Are you asking about the 3 and 9 o'clock positions or on the 1:30 and 10:30 positions like on the MK16 or URX4? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 10:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Are you asking about the 3 and 9 o'clock positions or on the 1:30 and 10:30 positions like on the MK16 or URX4? 10:30/11 o’clock position! |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 10:57:55 PM EDT
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Just checked my BCM MCR rail and it's a no go on the right. Left side is also a no go toward the back of the unit, but might fit up toward the front where the lugs are, I didn't check there as that's where my light is mounted.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 11:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chR15: Just checked my BCM MCR rail and it's a no go on the right. Left side is also a no go toward the back of the unit, but might fit up toward the front where the lugs are, I didn't check there as that's where my light is mounted. I appreciate you checking! I had thought if it fit any where it would be right on the left side lugs but I kinda even doubted that. Didn’t want to drop the coin for it not to fit. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 10:44:00 PM EDT
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Can anyone here get in touch with a rep about using rechargeable CR123s in these? LiFePO rechargeables , Li-Ion rechargeables, or atleast the specd input voltage?
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