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Posted: 3/26/2021 8:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What eyepiece/lense assemblies are the current XLS BNVD SG's using? I've been seeing some that don't look like normal PVS 14 assemblies lately. They look like the UL's. NVDevices product page is showing the "different/newer" style as well. Looks kind of like the objective end has changed a little too. BNVD-SG "Old/PVS14 style" https://i.imgur.com/QoORbEb.jpg BNVD-SG "New style" https://i.imgur.com/6Pehy0R.jpg BNVD-SG UL https://i.imgur.com/kT3VGCu.jpg Heres an example of the different/new style "in the wild" from earlier on this page. I've seen a few other XLS BNVD SG's like that around the internet. I was wondering if you could shed some light on it. I know NVDevices makes incremental changes to the BNVD, seems this may be one of them but I haven't seen much talk of it. Just curious as to what I should be expecting when mine show up!  Some units just received here all look like this-  These are back on sale with the "April DUALS days" sale now along with all of our dual tube NV options. |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 8:09:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, my XLS WP BNVD,s showed up yesterday and I gotta say for the price I paid for these during the Black Friday sale I’m more than happy with them. I will also say I am very happy with JRH throughout the 6 month wait process. Only 1 pin hole blem in zone 2 on the right tube that I didn’t even notice till I looked at a white wall and even then it took a few minutes to find. Left tube is blem free. Specs L/R Photocathode 2434/2479 Halo .94/.98 EBI .84/2.05 (ouch) Lum Gain 67442/68380 Res 64/64 FOM 2157/2080 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350278/86D0DC9C-22CA-4005-BE75-7FD2427B41C1_jpe-1881117.JPG Great tube specs!!! Thanks again for your business! |
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Posted: 3/26/2021 9:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some units just received here all look like this- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/92237/IMG_4513-1881130.jpg Cool, thanks. Looks like that's just the newest BNVD-SG iteration then. Looking forward to getting my "in production" email! |
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Posted: 3/27/2021 12:45:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, my XLS WP BNVD,s showed up yesterday and I gotta say for the price I paid for these during the Black Friday sale I’m more than happy with them. I will also say I am very happy with JRH throughout the 6 month wait process. Only 1 pin hole blem in zone 2 on the right tube that I didn’t even notice till I looked at a white wall and even then it took a few minutes to find. Left tube is blem free. Specs L/R Photocathode 2434/2479 Halo .94/.98 EBI .84/2.05 (ouch) Lum Gain 67442/68380 Res 64/64 FOM 2157/2080 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350278/86D0DC9C-22CA-4005-BE75-7FD2427B41C1_jpe-1881117.JPG Overall nice specs, I am however pretty surprised by the huge gap between EBI left to right. |
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Posted: 3/27/2021 5:00:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Overall nice specs, I am however pretty surprised by the huge gap between EBI left to right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, my XLS WP BNVD,s showed up yesterday and I gotta say for the price I paid for these during the Black Friday sale I’m more than happy with them. I will also say I am very happy with JRH throughout the 6 month wait process. Only 1 pin hole blem in zone 2 on the right tube that I didn’t even notice till I looked at a white wall and even then it took a few minutes to find. Left tube is blem free. Specs L/R Photocathode 2434/2479 Halo .94/.98 EBI .84/2.05 (ouch) Lum Gain 67442/68380 Res 64/64 FOM 2157/2080 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350278/86D0DC9C-22CA-4005-BE75-7FD2427B41C1_jpe-1881117.JPG Overall nice specs, I am however pretty surprised by the huge gap between EBI left to right. I was to |
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Posted: 3/27/2021 11:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some units just received here all look like this- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/92237/IMG_4513-1881130.jpg These are back on sale with the "April DUALS days" sale now along with all of our dual tube NV options. So what rear optic is that? |
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Posted: 3/28/2021 7:22:52 PM EDT
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The eyepieces themselves are standard weight glass eyepieces 5009545 but we are using our LW diopters on them so they will look a little different.
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Posted: 3/29/2021 11:18:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got an email, my order is "in Production", yes! Ordered BNVD WP XLS on 11/23/20 (Black Friday deal?) It is actual not that long of a wait. My first Suppressor was 12 months wait time (from purchase to can in hand). Update received the XLS BNVD last Friday here are some spec for reference: Photocathode: L: 2278 R: 2092 EBI: L: 0.36 R: 1.16 SNR: L: 28.5 R: 28.7 FOM: L: 1824 R: 1836 HALO: L: 0.74 R: 0.97 I do have one noticable blemish on the left tube (a black dot):  Overall very happy with this purchase and still have some money left for a IR laser |
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Posted: 3/29/2021 12:27:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update received the XLS BNVD last Friday here are some spec for reference: Photocathode: L: 2278 R: 2092 EBI: L: 0.36 R: 1.16 SNR: L: 28.5 R: 28.7 FOM: L: 1824 R: 1836 HALO: L: 0.74 R: 0.97 I do have one noticable blemish on the left tube (a black dot): https://i.imgur.com/hw7UA36.jpg?5 Overall very happy with this purchase and still have some money left for a IR laser I'm bummed I didn't have the money to buy A WP XLS BNVD. Those are some great specs and the blem will not be even noticed unless looking at a white wall. |
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Posted: 3/29/2021 3:44:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm bummed I didn't have the money to buy A WP XLS BNVD. Those are some great specs and the blem will not be even noticed unless looking at a white wall. Yes, I didn't even notice it until I look at the wall, also My domain eye is right, so it is not an issue for me. Good luck with this, I saved up every penny for almost 3 years. Gen 3 BNVD WP are like 10K everywhere I looked. This is good deal for me (recreational use). |
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Posted: 4/2/2021 5:50:03 PM EDT
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There has been a BS rumor that tubes are "glued" in, this is 100% bullshit-
It's amazing the depths that some will go to with misinformation, sad. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 8:19:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Big lot of BNVD Single gain units with White Phosphor XLS tubes going out this week. Emails have already been sent to the folks who's units are going into production. Thanks again.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 8:58:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Big lot of BNVD Single gain units with White Phosphor XLS tubes going out this week. Emails have already been sent to the folks who's units are going into production. Thanks again. Thank you, Robert! Received my tracking number yesterday. Can’t wait to see what the big, brown truck brings me! |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 9:20:14 AM EDT
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How ‘bout a couple of representative tube specs from this most recent batch Robert if you get a chance?
Also, what order date are you up to? WP XLSH BNVD-SG specifically. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 4:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How ‘bout a couple of representative tube specs from this most recent batch Robert if you get a chance? Also, what order date are you up to? WP XLSH BNVD-SG specifically. Up to 11/28 on XLS WP BNVD single gain orders. Units with battery packs are a couple days behind that. Mega mega mega slammed busy right now. Will start getting caught up on posting numbers from data sheets at some point in the near future. 2 folks out here currently so I'm working non stop and the units being on sale again adds to the busy'ness. Will get to this mound of data sheets and post up some specs as soon as humanly possible. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 4:18:43 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you, Robert! Received my tracking number yesterday. Can’t wait to see what the big, brown truck brings me! Thank YOU!!! |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 6:22:49 PM EDT
[#17]
I just placed my order - excited to get a pair of these and impressed with the specs people have been sharing!
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Posted: 4/13/2021 7:25:30 PM EDT
[#18]
Got my tracking number today.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 7:59:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just placed my order - excited to get a pair of these and impressed with the specs people have been sharing! Be sure you respond to that email we send you to verify the order in order to get the order started. Also called and left you a message. Thanks again. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 8:17:04 PM EDT
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12/17 order date here. Getting closer !
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Posted: 4/13/2021 9:57:25 PM EDT
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Sorry I missed your call! responded with an email reply
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Posted: 4/14/2021 7:25:03 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry I missed your call! responded with an email reply Got your email, all set. Thanks again! |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 12:14:51 PM EDT
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@Lowdown3
Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 12:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg Heck yeah!! Awesome specs and low Ebi to boot!!! Thanks again, appreciate your business! |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 9:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg Killer specs, are these xlsh tubes? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 10:17:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Killer specs, are these xlsh tubes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg Killer specs, are these xlsh tubes? Yes. They were Black Friday WP XLS BNVDs. I’m very happy with them. An amazing deal. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 10:37:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Those are incredible specs, absolutely the best deal on WP I've seen. I got my order in January 10. Can't wait.
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Posted: 4/15/2021 11:55:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg I hope my specs are that good. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 5:12:41 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg Nice!!! What are the numbers on the Halo and Gain |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 6:31:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice!!! What are the numbers on the Halo and Gain Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/E55797D5-F896-4A70-895D-6E4C33B4B75B-1904475.jpg Nice!!! What are the numbers on the Halo and Gain L/R Halo: 0.77/0.74 Gain: 68010 / 69009 |
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Posted: 4/16/2021 9:35:37 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 Robert, you crushed my order out of the ballpark! Amazing set of BNVDs. Couldn’t be happier and the wait was worth the product. The specs: L/R FOM: 2009/1996 EBI: 0.23/0.34 Resolution: 64/64 S/N: 31.4/31.2 Blems: One small blem on L tube that disappears when focused to infinity. Thanks again for the incredible set! Congrats. Lookin' good. |
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Posted: 4/16/2021 3:16:23 PM EDT
[#32]
@Lowdown3 received my order today
ordered 11/27 received 4/16 The specs: L/R FOM: 2217/1971 EBI: 0.4/0.94 Resolution: 72/64 S/N: 30.8/30.8 Blems: One small blem in zone 2 on Left tube Left tube  Right tube 
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Posted: 4/16/2021 4:24:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 received my order today ordered 11/27 received 4/16 The specs: L/R FOM: 2217/1971 EBI: 0.4/0.94 Resolution: 72/64 S/N: 30.8/30.8 Blems: One small blem in zone 2 on Left tube Left tube https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402051/BFEAC1AE-09F7-4897-A740-D41E38235A16-1907096.jpg Right tube https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402051/A2FAF156-5F38-416F-BBAF-9B70A4DFF7C4-1907099.jpg Nice!! Damn everyone is getting better units than what I got!!! 
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Posted: 4/16/2021 4:35:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lowdown3 received my order today ordered 11/27 received 4/16 The specs: L/R FOM: 2217/1971 EBI: 0.4/0.94 Resolution: 72/64 S/N: 30.8/30.8 Blems: One small blem in zone 2 on Left tube Left tube https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402051/BFEAC1AE-09F7-4897-A740-D41E38235A16-1907096.jpg Right tube https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402051/A2FAF156-5F38-416F-BBAF-9B70A4DFF7C4-1907099.jpg That’s what I’m talking about! |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 1:15:11 AM EDT
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Got my unit in. Spec wise pretty good, happy with the SNR:
31.2 SNR 1.99 EBI .67 Halo 31.7 SNR 1.27 EBI .92 Halo However, the right tube has a pretty big spot in zone 1. Much more noticeable and larger when looking through it with the eyeballs instead of the phone camera. Sucks cause I haven't seen anyone else's examples have such a prominent spot/blem, but that's luck of the draw. I'm hoping that I'll learn to not pay attention to it, however it's going to be pretty distracting while passive aiming  
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Posted: 4/22/2021 1:26:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my unit in. Spec wise pretty good, happy with the SNR: 31.2 SNR 1.99 EBI .67 Halo 31.7 SNR 1.27 EBI .92 Halo However, the right tube has a pretty big spot in zone 1. Much more noticeable and larger when looking through it with the eyeballs instead of the phone camera. Sucks cause I haven't seen anyone else's examples have such a prominent spot/blem, but I'm hoping that I'll learn to not pay attention to it. It's going to be pretty distracting while passive aiming though https://imgur.com/a/Ikd17lR That's not a very big spot at all, especially when you consider the low price you guys are paying for these. |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 1:58:15 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Overall nice specs, I am however pretty surprised by the huge gap between EBI left to right. I'm curious about the differences and reasons for the change from the PVS-14 objectives vs. The new objectives that used to only be in the BNVD-UL and mini. One guy DMed me randomly saying he regretted getting the ULs over the SG because the 14 objectives seem more sturdy, though he didn't have any problems with them or anything like that. |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 10:05:52 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm curious about the differences and reasons for the change from the PVS-14 objectives vs. The new objectives that used to only be in the BNVD-UL and mini. One guy DMed me randomly saying he regretted getting the ULs over the SG because the 14 objectives seem more sturdy, though he didn't have any problems with them or anything like that. Funny you mention this - I was just emailing about Objectives yesterday. I was going to pre-buy some Amber Filters from LLI and wanted to make sure they would fit. So does this mean the SG's went on a little diet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 5:14:24 PM EDT
[#39]
My 14 and BNVD comparison. I’m not sure if the amber filter would attach to the new BNVD frame.
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Posted: 4/22/2021 6:05:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My 14 and BNVD comparison. I’m not sure if the amber filter would attach to the new BNVD frame. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/450028/A40CC683-33A0-4CE4-A9A7-2F30BBEC5A3C-1914878.jpg Thanks for the pic. I'm a newb to analog - these thread in and say "Disclaimer: will only fit Carson glass without modification and agms pvs14 glass may require modification". I assume the "30mm" is the threads diameter?  |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 1:08:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Ordered 12/28, received “order ready” on 4/22. Will post specs when it gets here, really looking forward to it
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Posted: 4/24/2021 1:32:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered 12/28, received “order ready” on 4/22. Will post specs when it gets here, really looking forward to it And before the freaking out and gathering of pitchforks and tar and feathers starts up by others that watch this thread and order dates religiously- This customer ordered a FDE color dipped unit. We had an earlier dated customer order the same unit, then make a last minute cancellation of that unit. That already dipped housing had to be used for another order of the same color housing- This is why this customer was shipped ahead of some of you that were before him. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 9:00:56 AM EDT
[#43]
Any update on what approx date range is now shipping?
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Posted: 4/25/2021 9:25:32 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any update on what approx date range is now shipping? Around the 28th of November. There will be anomalies like the one above or a holdout from slightly before that where ported systems (battery packs), special colors, etc. were ordered. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 12:46:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And before the freaking out and gathering of pitchforks and tar and feathers starts up by others that watch this thread and order dates religiously- This customer ordered a FDE color dipped unit. We had an earlier dated customer order the same unit, then make a last minute cancellation of that unit. That already dipped housing had to be used for another order of the same color housing- This is why this customer was shipped ahead of some of you that were before him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ordered 12/28, received “order ready” on 4/22. Will post specs when it gets here, really looking forward to it And before the freaking out and gathering of pitchforks and tar and feathers starts up by others that watch this thread and order dates religiously- This customer ordered a FDE color dipped unit. We had an earlier dated customer order the same unit, then make a last minute cancellation of that unit. That already dipped housing had to be used for another order of the same color housing- This is why this customer was shipped ahead of some of you that were before him. Apologies for causing excitement... yes, I ordered a color dipped housing. Guess I got lucky with the cancellation, was a bit surprised how quickly it went to fulfillment, now it makes sense |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 1:36:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Apologies for causing excitement... yes, I ordered a color dipped housing. Guess I got lucky with the cancellation, was a bit surprised how quickly it went to fulfillment, now it makes sense No problem. I just wanted to head off the "Hey! Why's he getting his before me!" emails, PMs and posts. All good. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 5:41:13 PM EDT
[#47]
Mine. No blems
Specs L/R Lum 1744/1731 Rad 190/186 Halo .75/.80 EBI .85/1.48 Res 64 both SNR 30.5/29.8 FOM 1952/1907.2 |
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Posted: 4/29/2021 5:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine. No blems Specs L/R Lum 1744/1731 Rad 190/186 Halo .75/.80 EBI .85/1.48 Res 64 both SNR 30.5/29.8 FOM 1952/1907.2 Sorry I missed this previously. Appreciate your business, thank you very much!! April DUALS days sale on dual tube units absolutely ends at midnight Friday the 30th of April. Catch the most popular dual tube platform on sale now! |
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Posted: 4/30/2021 3:46:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my unit in. Spec wise pretty good, happy with the SNR: 31.2 SNR 1.99 EBI .67 Halo 31.7 SNR 1.27 EBI .92 Halo However, the right tube has a pretty big spot in zone 1. Much more noticeable and larger when looking through it with the eyeballs instead of the phone camera. Sucks cause I haven't seen anyone else's examples have such a prominent spot/blem, but that's luck of the draw. I'm hoping that I'll learn to not pay attention to it, however it's going to be pretty distracting while passive aiming https://imgur.com/a/Ikd17lR Speaking from experience, blems (outside the realm of this tube is fucked, sized blems) completely disappear in real world use. Do some running and gunning with them and you’ll see what I mean. |
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Posted: 4/30/2021 5:53:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking from experience, blems (outside the realm of this tube is fucked, sized blems) completely disappear in real world use. Do some running and gunning with them and you’ll see what I mean. Yeah, the 14's we had in the Army (line Infantry) were probably more blem than clean tube after years of being passed around and abused  . Still got the job done. |
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