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Posted: 12/31/2020 10:38:37 AM EDT
[#1]
Yeah you gotta hand it to them, they are really trying hard to establish good QC here.
But yeah the shipping and customs is biting them hard in the ass. As much as we used to bitch about buying stuff overseas and the inefficient postal systems you had to deal with; thanks to the "progressives", you can now enjoy that at home. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 1:44:08 PM EDT
[#2]
I WENT AHEAD CANCEL MY ORDER PERSET-4 FROM BLACK PHASE TACTICAL.. GOING TO ORDER IT FROM GEN 3 FROM IVAN WHEN IT COMES OUT
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Posted: 12/31/2020 2:26:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I WENT AHEAD CANCEL MY ORDER PERSET-4 FROM BLACK PHASE TACTICAL.. GOING TO ORDER IT FROM GEN 3 FROM IVAN WHEN IT COMES OUT JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN PUT IN A PREORDER ON THE NEW GEN3 PERSTS THROUGH RUSSIAN THUNDER AND THEY WILL SHIP IN JANUARY. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 3:55:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN PUT IN A PREORDER ON THE NEW GEN3 PERSTS THROUGH RUSSIAN THUNDER AND THEY WILL SHIP IN JANUARY. How fast will it ship via them compared to buying it from zenitco on ebay in January? |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 4:26:51 PM EDT
[#5]
I have no idea I don't work for them. I do know that both Russian Thunder and Ivan Tactical are official Zenitco partners, Zenitco has actually said that eBay seller using their name is in no way affiliated with them at all.
Take that for what you will. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 5:20:18 PM EDT
[#6]
What is this that I'm seeing about a gen 3 perst? Is this in regards to the Perst-4 or Perst-3? I placed an order with Russian Thunder on Black Friday for a green+ Perst-3 and it hasn't shipped. If there's a new gen I hope I receive one.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 5:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is this that I'm seeing about a gen 3 perst? Is this in regards to the Perst-4 or Perst-3? I placed an order with Russian Thunder on Black Friday for a green+ Perst-3 and it hasn't shipped. If there's a new gen I hope I receive one. Quote HistoryQuoted: What is this that I'm seeing about a gen 3 perst? Is this in regards to the Perst-4 or Perst-3? I placed an order with Russian Thunder on Black Friday for a green+ Perst-3 and it hasn't shipped. If there's a new gen I hope I receive one. I posted it this morning, but I will repost again... Quoted: Here is the response for anyone curious, new generation of persts are releasing in January per Ivan Tactical, RT and Zenitco directly confirmed. "Hi. Yes, all electronics will be updated to gen.3. Everything will be digitally controlled, all units will have universal remote switches, so everything can be paired. Switches will be both Picatinny and direct Basis mounted. Perst-3 and Perst-4 will get increased water resistance. Klesh-2 will be twice smaller. Also Klesh-1 with laser will be released. And Zenitco is also working on holographic and red dote sights." https://youtu.be/02S-qN0OEBs here's the video release of you goto minute mark 20:00 |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 9:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is this that I'm seeing about a gen 3 perst? Is this in regards to the Perst-4 or Perst-3? I placed an order with Russian Thunder on Black Friday for a green+ Perst-3 and it hasn't shipped. If there's a new gen I hope I receive one. I ordered my Perst3+ on 12/18 and it shipped 12/28...currently tracking it Russian Post. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 10:09:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Did you order yours from Russian Thunder?
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you order yours from Russian Thunder? Yes sir. |
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Posted: 1/1/2021 4:12:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Damn. Guess I got the short end of the stick.
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Posted: 1/1/2021 12:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. Guess I got the short end of the stick. Look at the silver lining, if your order hasn't shipped you can email and ask for the gen 3 Perst. |
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Posted: 1/1/2021 1:21:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Sent them an email last night to see if I could!
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Posted: 1/2/2021 9:21:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Got my Perst 3 from Ivan Tactical in 19 days including the Christmas holiday slowdown.
Here's detail on tracking if anyone is interested... looks like I avoided PCI-7 purgatory and it went through PCI-8. Paid for expedited shipping. DEC 10 Ordered + Shipped DEC 14 - Hit PCI-8 DEC 15 - Entered Russian Customs DEC 20 - Released Russian Customs DEC 22 - Arrived USA DEC 23 - Entered USA Customs DEC 28 - Cleared USA Customs DEC 29 - Delivered |
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Posted: 1/2/2021 7:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bocharov Yaroslav from Ivan Tactical said to send it to him and he will replace it under warranty as it is certainly a defective unit issue. Pretty stand up to do that and I didn’t even buy it from him. Yup, they have customer service nailed. I will buy from them next time, even if they are slightly higher than the eBay source. It would be a dick move to order from eBay, but use Ivan for service. If I ever need service, Ill send some money to Ivan, in the box 
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Posted: 1/2/2021 8:15:06 PM EDT
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Found a used PERST-4 today for $375... I’m going to give it a shot.
My NODs aren’t even here yet (still being built, I’m guessing end of January) so I’m hoping by the time they’re done, I have IR lights and the laser here, mounted and ready to do some shooting. Hell, I might even have my form 1 can done before the NODS get here 
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Posted: 1/3/2021 2:24:13 AM EDT
[#17]
Finally got mine from Black Phase Tactical.....I didn't look back to see how long ago I ordered, but I'm thinking it was at least 6 months ago. Perst-4 not bad at all. Makes me want to get one with the illuminator.
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Posted: 1/3/2021 6:15:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Ordered Perst4 from RT on 12/02, no commo from RT whatsoever so far, guess I should have ordered the P3
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Posted: 1/3/2021 9:22:57 PM EDT
[#19]
Is the Perst-2 going to be updated as well? I ordered one on Black Friday from RT and it's still in shipping limbo.
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Posted: 1/3/2021 9:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the Perst-2 going to be updated as well? I ordered one on Black Friday from RT and it's still in shipping limbo. They said the entire perst lineup is getting all new electronics. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 7:31:49 AM EDT
[#21]
Any Leads on a Perst-4.. Really want to get my hands on one..
A Green+ to be exact |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 11:47:37 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Leads on a Perst-4.. Really want to get my hands on one.. PM sent |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 6:04:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Put my order for a green pert4 new gen 3 from RT
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Posted: 1/4/2021 6:58:42 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Put my order for a green pert4 new gen 3 from RT I was going to put in an order myself but wasn’t sure if it was the Green+.. 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:55:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Ordered a perst 4 for my ak74 build, anyone running the arisaka 600 series IR lights or anything similar?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:56:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Hey guys new member but have been creeping on this thread a few others for awhile so figured I’d make an account. I ordered fro BPT in July and have noticed some people saying theirs have been starting to come in. Will they send an email letting you know it’s shipped or will it just show up on my doorstep one day?
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Posted: 1/6/2021 9:05:29 AM EDT
[#27]
Well, he seems like decent chap but is not real big on emailing his customers with updates. I think you will get a notice right when he ships it but not much else in between. He was pestered to death by a lot of impatient customers and was threatening to quit dealing in them. But I think unusual customer demand has kept him at it. Hopefully the shipping situation is improving.
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Posted: 1/6/2021 3:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered a perst 4 for my ak74 build, anyone running the arisaka 600 series IR lights or anything similar? In for the answer, I'm looking at putting together the following setup: Arisaka 600 Series Body Surefire UE Tailcap Malkoff IR 700 Head Unity Tactical Hot Button |
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Posted: 1/6/2021 5:25:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In for the answer, I'm looking at putting together the following setup: Arisaka 600 Series Body Surefire UE Tailcap Malkoff IR 700 Head Unity Tactical Hot Button Why the 700 over the 250? |
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Posted: 1/6/2021 11:33:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Yeah I’m not gonna bug him with an email since a lot of people have already been doing that was just curious if he gave a heads up when it shipped.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:51:22 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered a perst 4 for my ak74 build, anyone running the arisaka 600 series IR lights or anything similar? |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:50:51 AM EDT
[#32]
I ordered from Ivan back at the first of December. Shipped on 12/8. Arrived in Moscow on 12/18 and hasn't moved. Is this normal?
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Posted: 1/10/2021 10:03:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ordered from Ivan back at the first of December. Shipped on 12/8. Arrived in Moscow on 12/18 and hasn't moved. Is this normal? Seems normal, ordered a P4 from him a few days after you and from the 18th to the 6th it had no updates. It's in customs in the US now though so hopefully getting close. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:05:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Modlite IR head, same ballpark. What would you like to know? |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:17:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Maybe in a few months I’ll pull the trigger on the Perst-3, but for now I just put in an order for Green Perst-4 w/ Russian-Thunder..
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:54:24 PM EDT
[#36]
Edit because I’m dumb
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Posted: 1/10/2021 1:56:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Modlite IR head, same ballpark. What would you like to know? Do you run it with a perst or just stand alone? If you run it with a perst do you have a dual pressure pad sent up? I’m planning on running the p4 and the arisaka with a dual pressure pad so I can have white light when needed then switch to IR and laser when needed also. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 5:48:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what head did you get the 850 or 940? |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 5:52:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you run it with a perst or just stand alone? If you run it with a perst do you have a dual pressure pad sent up? I'm planning on running the p4 and the arisaka with a dual pressure pad so I can have white light when needed then switch to IR and laser when needed also. I keep a PLH head on-hand in case I need a ton of white light for whatever reason. Ideally I'd have both full-power IR illumination and white light, but I think it's a reasonable compromise for real-life circumstances and training. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:15:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:44:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/71141/0BC7670C-310D-4DBA-A25A-9FFF5C0DA4CA_jpe-1773888.JPG Here's my PERST 4P on my Henry Big Boy X 44. 
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:00:42 AM EDT
[#42]
UPDATE:
Ordered Perst3 from Russian Thunder in 12/18 Arrived today 1/13 Got in stock on 12/28 and shipped same day So only 25 days basically from order to my door and really 10 of those days were waiting for the item to get back in stock. I’ll post pics and vids later...this thing is a damn lightsaber |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 2:05:48 AM EDT
[#43]
Got a shipping notice from RT today on my p4 from 12/02 order. The wait continues...
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:50:44 AM EDT
[#44]
The new gen3.0 perst4 are listed on Zenitco's official website, still no word on the gen2.0 perst3.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:33:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The new gen3.0 perst4 are listed on Zenitco's official website, still no word on the gen2.0 perst3. Guess I'll hang on to my Perst 4+ for a while and see how this plays out. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:08:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought a Perst 3 G+ from. Russian Thunder with the 10% off, came out to $1189.48 shipped. I previously had a DBAL D2 that I just sold to pay for the P3, cost about $80 to "upgrade" from the D2 to the P3 so not a bad deal. Mainly did the switch to get into something a bit more ergonomic, streamlined, and obviously full power  . However, I'm managing my expectations, I expect it'll have a dirty pointer and illuminator, no where near as crystal clean as the D2. Anyone else make the switch from a D2 to a P3? Any regerts?@Nvcommando Was this a holiday deal thing or is there an on going 10% off thing like some companies do for ar15.com. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:12:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Nvcommando Was this a holiday deal thing or is there an on going 10% off thing like some companies do for ar15.com. Yeah, it was just a holiday deal. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:50:57 AM EDT
[#48]
Yes they had a 10% off sale for the holidays.
RT is usually slightly cheaper than Ivan most of the time, then when RT has the 10% off sales it makes it a no brainier. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 10:06:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full-power LAM on a lever gun. You are living in 3021 sir Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/71141/0BC7670C-310D-4DBA-A25A-9FFF5C0DA4CA_jpe-1773888.JPG Here's my PERST 4P on my Henry Big Boy X 44. Ha! I found a TNVC TOR MINI locally and moved that onto this gun, simply to reduce the weight somewhat. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:36:11 PM EDT
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Has anyone bought one of these since 11/13 and gotten it? Mine has been stalled somewhere in shipping since 11/20. Zenitco says nothing they've shipped since 11/13 has been delivered, but that this happened around the same time last year as well.
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