I've seen this question asked a lot but with no clear answer. The only reason I bring this up as a new topic is because at the time I purchased mine (April 2016), there apparently was a transition period where Photonis was being bought out. At the moment I ordered the PVS-14, the website still listed it as a Photonis tube and that it also came with a spec sheet. After placing the order, I found out it would not come with a spec sheet,l. I asked if they could possibly tell me what model tube the Photonis I have was. They informed me that couldn't guarantee that I got a tube that has Photonis markings. At that point I wondered if I bought the PLUS model and paid for a Photonis tube, but may not have received a Photonis tube. I'm not making acusations, just maybe hoping for some clarification.

A pure guess, but could be Harder Digital Gen2+ too. Here in EU the, a mid range Gen2+ from HD is slightly cheaper than a similarly specd Photonis. Photonis obviously makes tubes HD Gen2+ can't touch, but those come with a nice price tag.

I remember someone from NGI saying they are sourcing tubes from all over Europe.

Edit: alrighty Photonis it is

Gotcha. So what're the odds that the one I purchased at that time is an actual Photons?

I never sent it back because I was plenty happy with It! It's a great looking tube and performs quite well. I was just curious about it. I've just been going though some of the other threads, some recent, some archived,  and was just trying to find it more about the unit I have based on info available.

I would just like to clarify in full view of everyone that I am completely content with the unit I received regardless of tube manufacturer. As I stated in another thread, my NGI sees the most use of all my PVS-14s. I don't want my curiosity to be mistaken for discontent. I was just curious to learn more about it. I must extend my apologies if I came off in such a way that would seem as though I had taken any issue with NGI/TNVC as they've been completely honest and transparent. I've Just been digging for info on all three of my systems recently due to the free time I've had. I just got a spec sheet for my Armasight PVS-14 After two years lol. Rest assured, I am plenty happy with my NGI PVS-14.

To answer your question about "where", this is the archived thread that I was referring to.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-gen2-vs-gen-3-PVS14/18-451746/?page=3

While basically everyone was arguing about gen2 vs gen3 and photos lol, I saw in there somewhere that the PLUS model came with Photonis,  then when I bought mine there was the whole transition thing , so that's where my curiosity came from. Lol I wasn't wrapped up in the generation thing or the photos. That thread was..... an interesting read haha.

I just ordered one and am waiting for it to come in. Is there any chance of getting one with a Photonis tube or are they pretty much gone at this point? If not Photonis, what will I be getting? I'm sure I'll be quite happy with it, whatever I end up with.

Anyone?

From what it seems, not likely. They won't divulge exactly where they get their tubes. It's multiple sources, but I've yet to see anywhere they mentioned those sources.

Ok. Like I said, I'm sure I'll be happy with it at any rate.

I imagine you will be. Like I've stated in other/earlier post, I'm not even 100% certain mine is Photonis but it does very well and I am plenty happy with it.

Well I got it last week and have had it out on several very dark nights. As good as it picks things up, I'm hard pressed to see how Gen 3 can be all that much better. Granted when I was active duty (89-97), the early PVS-7s were the best thing out there, and this does much better than them.