Armory Sponsor
Posted: 5/22/2016 8:00:16 PM EDT
|
Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others?
Thanks in advance! |
|
Quoted:
Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others? Thanks in advance! Our kits are purely Mil Spec and we use two contract housing manufactures that is also used for both Excelis and L3. Be careful on some of the kits that are not using Mil Spec glass, it does make a big difference in viewing qaulity. At times its very hard to know until you look through the units and see distortion and vignetting. Hope this helps Vic |
|
Here's a good thread on what to look at as far as knockoffs
Go. Link |
|
Quoted:
Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others? Thanks in advance! Quoted:
Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others? Thanks in advance! Yes, if they are mil-spec PVS-14 parts kits then they are pretty much the same, with minor variations between them. I wouldn't get too worked up about counterfeit kits and lenses. If you read to the end of that 5-page thread you will see that the issue which prompted the original post, and subsequently caused so much hysteria and paranoia about Chinese knockoffs, resulted from a simple mixup and breakdown in communication between the OP, customer, and a couple reputable dealers. There are commercial housings and optics out there, like the Mongoose monocular from Adams Industries or the Sight Owl lenses, but I'm unaware of a single instance where these were advertised or sold by dealers as actual PVS-14 kits or lenses. |
|
Quoted:
Yes, if they are mil-spec PVS-14 parts kits then they are pretty much the same, with minor variations between them. I wouldn't get too worked up about counterfeit kits and lenses. If you read to the end of that 5-page thread you will see that the issue which prompted the original post, and subsequently caused so much hysteria and paranoia about Chinese knockoffs, resulted from a simple mixup and breakdown in communication between the OP, customer, and a couple reputable dealers. There are commercial housings and optics out there, like the Mongoose monocular from Adams Industries or the Sight Owl lenses, but I'm unaware of a single instance where these were advertised or sold by dealers as actual PVS-14 kits or lenses. Quoted:
Quoted:
Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others? Thanks in advance! Yes, if they are mil-spec PVS-14 parts kits then they are pretty much the same, with minor variations between them. I wouldn't get too worked up about counterfeit kits and lenses. If you read to the end of that 5-page thread you will see that the issue which prompted the original post, and subsequently caused so much hysteria and paranoia about Chinese knockoffs, resulted from a simple mixup and breakdown in communication between the OP, customer, and a couple reputable dealers. There are commercial housings and optics out there, like the Mongoose monocular from Adams Industries or the Sight Owl lenses, but I'm unaware of a single instance where these were advertised or sold by dealers as actual PVS-14 kits or lenses. My guess is you may not have been in this industry too long but the counterfeit Lens and EP's have and ARE a big deal. As for that thread there was a LOT more that went on behind the scenes that I won't comment on. Interestingly though, 7 or 8 months ago I gotta call you actually contacted a friend of our company asking him where TNVC obtained our Mil Spec housings. Guess you may have been concerened about something or needed to find out about our supplier. Some dealers out there attempt to save $100 or more by using this inferior glass. No matter what the outcome of this particular thread, non Mil Spec glass using Chinese, Russian etc.j is a real issue and has been for many years now. To the others, always be aware of "low" prices on these kits. When kits are discounted a few hundred lower than most of the reputable distributors, be vigilant of what could be installed in these kits. Just last month, we were inspecting a housing kit where the image has some vignetting and cloudiness and the customer thought his tube was bad from a purchase he just made from another eBay "dealer". Sure enough the lens itself was culprit. We knew this immediately once our replacment lens was installed. This was and is not the first time we've seen this, not even close. We've been around for 11 years now and have seen so much of this crap out there to make more profit margin. It's absolute B.S. to do business like this and the reason I personally got into this business after getting ripped off and talking to so many who have. A few months ago Ed Wilcox (another who's been in this business for years and I trust) were talking about the very relevant and troublesome topic. Rant off for now.... 
|
|
I guess I should reply as I started the thread and the "hysteria". I spoke with Vic extensively about this problem and as he said a lot went on behind the scenes. I am not at liberty to discuss. Suffice it to say that my customer got his lenses replaced with milspec lenses at no charge to him. Some friends were involved who I did not expect to be involved and the whole thing got a little ugly. Being friends it was handled in private and my customer was happy. All I can really say on the matter.
I am not in the night vision business but on occasion will repair or fix a scope for a friend or someone in need. That was the case with the non milspec glass that caused the whole stink. What I can say is the glass fucking sucked ! Chinese glass is not what you want and is a MAJOR problem in the industry. Be careful who you buy from and really research what you are buying. Sometimes a really good price can be for a really good reason ! Knockoff glass is a issue. I am sure many here have knockoff glass but just don't know any better. It fooled me for a couple weeks until I learned what to look for. Once you know it is easy to spot the fakes. Vic is 100% correct in his warnings. Don't be a sucker and get taken. Vic and I both have been fucked in the past. It is his reason for starting a very successful night vision company and my reason for having fun with Satchal.  Vics reason makes more money than my reason but I have more fun ! 
|
|
Quoted: Hey all..... Forgive me if this has been asked before but are all the PVS-14 kits out there for sale pretty much the same? Or Are there some better than others? Thanks in advance! There is no catch to the price of our PVS-14 kits, just a good deal. Anyone who prices these kits higher than us is simply doing so to make more profit which I am 100% OK with because it takes profit to run a business. Here a pic of exactly what you get in our PVS-14 parts kit. Notice the beautiful MIL-SPEC glass.   |
|
Also, (since we've had a lot of questions on this thread)...Yes it's true our kits also include a metal focus stop ring vs. plastic that does not come standard issue on the Mil Spec kits. This is a proven weak link of the system especially when a need arises to weapon mount when the mount utilizes the focus stop ring for the mount point.
To the OP, If your in the Jacksonville area where our build facility is, please feel free to contact us for an appointment, we can show you up close and personal our Mil-Spec Kits. Thank you. |
Armory Sponsor