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2/12/2016 6:35:17 PM EDT
Hi,

I picked up a NV monocular off the EE, and really happy that I made the investment. Not fast-roping out of a helicopter or kicking in doors, but like having the ability to see in the dark. So, after looking around the house at night a few times, I decided that I'd want something a little more practical than holding it in my hand.

This is a link to the thread I purchased it from, if pictures will help (don't like reposting other people's pictures), but I'll quote the description.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_172/1510936_____Generation_3___AB_Night_Vision_Pitbull_with_AVS_Optics____.html

This is an excellent condition Generation 3 AB Night Vision Pitbull with Aviation grade optics. It works perfectly, and works with most PVS-14 mounts. I have about 100 hours on it and it works perfectly.
The glass, and housing are absolutely flawless on this.

The tube is exceptionally clean and is Generation 3. The padded case has a belt loop so you can take this with you on your hike. This is probably about the smallest you'll get a Gen 3 device, too.

AB Night Vision AVS Monocular
Built in IR Illuminator
MX-10160 Generation 3, Omni III, tube. very clean and clear as seen in pictures.
Auto Brightness (No Manual Gain)
Non-Autogated
Aviation grade glass (AVS-6) with Translating objective.
Padded Case
Lenspen
CR123 Battery


The forum member was very helpful with giving me info on the setup, and NV in general, but I'm still green in regards to all of this stuff.

Anyways, I looked around and found a cheapish helmet, which is fine for what I'm looking for. Don't need to stop a bullet with it, so a glorified bump hat will work fine.

http://tnvc.com/shop/pro-tec-bravo-half-shell-helmet/

The thing I'm confused on is what I exactly need to mount the NV monocular to the helmet. Considering the helmet I am looking at, I know I need to get a shroud for it.

http://tnvc.com/shop/ops-core-vas-shroud/

Other than that, I figured this would attach to that shroud, and then to the NV.

http://tnvc.com/shop/milspec-pvs-14-j-arm/

Is it really that simple, or am I missing something?

Also, that J-Arm says that it cuts power to the NV when flipped up. I see the threaded hole that I'm guessing holds the NV on the arm, but there is also a brass flathead screw next to it, which I'm guessing would do something in regards to that feature. Not a big deal breaker, but I definitely don't want to back out that screw and mess something up.

In regards to protecting the lenses, is there any coverings that would fit the NV I have? I was thinking about a microfiber pouch (like a sunglass one), and I have it in the bag that came with it. Was looking at a cover for the objective, but also a rubber eyepiece for the opposite side.

Any help with this would be appreciated. I'm lost with this, and rather find out what I need prior to putting it on a credit card.

Thanks for your time.
2/12/2016 9:07:50 PM EDT
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You also need a rhino mount
The mount locks into the shroud or plate that's attached to the helmet.
The Jarm screws on to the pitbull and clips into the rhino.

Lots of rhinos in the EE for cheap.
There's also Rhino II mounts that give vertical adjustment.
There are also a ton more mounts that cost way more but reduce wobble.
2/13/2016 1:07:04 AM EDT
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You also need a rhino mount
The mount locks into the shroud or plate that's attached to the helmet.
The Jarm screws on to the pitbull and clips into the rhino.

Lots of rhinos in the EE for cheap.
There's also Rhino II mounts that give vertical adjustment.
There are also a ton more mounts that cost way more but reduce wobble.
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USGI RHNO II Arm - $45 Buy It Now

I'd also look into a purpose built bump helmet like the Ops-Core Base Jump as well.  It's a little bit more expensive (~$60) than the Pro-Tec + shroud, but you get easier accessory integration (ARC rails), and a more adjustable suspension system.  Not that Pro-Tecs are not serviceable as well, but it's worth a look.  

https://tnvc.com/shop/ops-core-fast-base-jump-shell/


~Augee
2/13/2016 1:10:54 AM EDT
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rainmaker9, thanks for the info.

So, I'm guessing it is similar to optics... mounts increase in costs as you get better stability/flexibility. I'll have to take a look at them, being I'm sure helmets/people's heads don't line up across the board. Think I'll probably look for the Rhino II, in case I need to raise/lower the NV.

Augee, thanks for the link. In my eBay watch list.

And I'll probably opt for that helmet instead. I don't have that much of an issue tossing a few more dollars in to get a little better system (just not looking to spend $500+).

In regards to sizes, do they measure like they would for a hat? I measured around 23" for where the adjustment collar of a hat would ride. Guessing that would be a large.
2/13/2016 1:32:46 AM EDT
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Are you a Bert or are you an Ernie?  





Just FWIW, if you find yourself on the cusp of sizes, go with the bigger size.  

Re: mounts --

The biggest decision you'll need to make in terms of the mount is USGI bayonet or dovetail.

Most (but not all) prefer the dovetail, but when going with the dovetail, the prices begin to rise quickly.  

If you choose to stay with the bayonet, the RHNO II that I linked to is a pretty good option.  Plenty of adjustment in all directions, and it has elevation adjustment, which earlier generations of the USGI mount lacked.  The elevation adjustment is a huge improvement for getting the NVD set up and aligned correctly.  

The advice that is usually given is to start with the relatively cheap USGI mount before dropping the cash for a pricier mount.  They are quite expensive, and have lots of different features depending on which one you get, so buying one "blind," or simply after reading or asking "which is the best" is not always a successful strategy.  

Many people end up finding the USGI mount more than serviceable, and never feel the need to upgrade from one.  Otherwise, having the USGI mount as a "baseline" will allow you to figure out what you want out of a mount, and you can start trying to match mounts to the feature set you want.  

~Augee
2/13/2016 1:29:31 PM EDT
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I'd also look into a purpose built bump helmet like the Ops-Core Base Jump as well.  It's a little bit more expensive (~$60) than the Pro-Tec + shroud, but you get easier accessory integration (ARC rails), and a more adjustable suspension system.  Not that Pro-Tecs are not serviceable as well, but it's worth a look.  

https://tnvc.com/shop/ops-core-fast-base-jump-shell/


~Augee
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Be aware there's a 2-3 month wait for this helmet, at least a Medium in multicam. I ordered one this week from TNVC and ended up switching to a Nightcap.
2/13/2016 3:57:07 PM EDT
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Be aware there's a 2-3 month wait for this helmet, at least a Medium in multicam. I ordered one this week from TNVC and ended up switching to a Nightcap.
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I'd also look into a purpose built bump helmet like the Ops-Core Base Jump as well.  It's a little bit more expensive (~$60) than the Pro-Tec + shroud, but you get easier accessory integration (ARC rails), and a more adjustable suspension system.  Not that Pro-Tecs are not serviceable as well, but it's worth a look.  

https://tnvc.com/shop/ops-core-fast-base-jump-shell/

~Augee


Be aware there's a 2-3 month wait for this helmet, at least a Medium in multicam. I ordered one this week from TNVC and ended up switching to a Nightcap.


We order in some pretty big quantity's with Ops, but MC is a dipped process and it always takes much longer for Ops to produce and keep up with demand. Thank you for the order and considerations (Augee) either way guys.

Vic
2/13/2016 5:15:42 PM EDT
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You might also want to consider a Cry Nightcap. Sometimes less is more.

https://tnvc.com/shop/crye-precision-nightcap%E2%84%A2-nvg-platform/

Out of what I own, I don't mind my Team Wendy Exfil LTP, but I generally grab my Protec Bravo because it it fits snug, but it *only* fits me. lol.

I intentionally ordered it too small and cut the foam to fit. I also put a Team Wendy chin strap on it.  Prior to these, I ran a Protec Ace that I customized heavily and drilled my own holes to mount the Norotos rhino shroud/mount. If you're not the only one wearing it, something with a dial lock liner might be the way to g - or the nightcap.
2/15/2016 12:53:57 AM EDT
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Sorry for not replying sooner, long weekend. So long that I didn't even get a chance to mess with the 15-round S&W 10mm magazine that I received on Friday. And with work, probably going to sit in the safe until Tuesday.

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More of a Bert...

I'm going to likely go that route... USGI. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking to really cheap out on it, just I really don't have a need to get a $450 mount. Helmet doesn't need to stop rounds. If it holds the monocular somewhat steady, and probably more important... doesn't drop it, I'm good. I'll probably order the mount and J-Arm next week, then a helmet either next or the following month. Been an expensive past couple of weeks, and that magazine I mentioned was too much of an impulse buy that I'm going to have to slow it up for a little bit.

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If you're not the only one wearing it, something with a dial lock liner might be the way to g - or the nightcap.


Nope, I'll be the only one wearing it.

I mean, I trust my girlfriend, but rather not have the opportunity to yell at her for dropping something as expensive.
4/2/2016 8:43:23 PM EDT
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Sorry to bring this back up, but figured I'd ask about this... think that I got the wrong parts, as it does not connect.

Any help with this would be appreciated. I can connect the J-arm to the NV. But I cannot get the mount to connect to the J-arm...
4/2/2016 9:07:38 PM EDT
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http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc61/Screwball216/CF143431-92E0-48D1-8068-939AB758E99E_zpsop1q80ch.jpg

Sorry to bring this back up, but figured I'd ask about this... think that I got the wrong parts, as it does not connect.

Any help with this would be appreciated. I can connect the J-arm to the NV. But I cannot get the mount to connect to the J-arm...
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That's a dovetail mount on your rhino and a bayonet mount on your jarm
4/3/2016 11:28:13 AM EDT
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Thanks. I did a little research... would this be what I'm looking for to make it work?

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-nvg-interface-shoe-for-anpvs-7b7d/
4/3/2016 11:42:25 AM EDT
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Thanks. I did a little research... would this be what I'm looking for to make it work?

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-nvg-interface-shoe-for-anpvs-7b7d/
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That's a dovetail mount on your rhino and a bayonet mount on your jarm


Thanks. I did a little research... would this be what I'm looking for to make it work?

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-nvg-interface-shoe-for-anpvs-7b7d/

That will work.

You can also find Rhino type mounts that are bayonet style for around $50 on EBay
4/3/2016 12:27:39 PM EDT
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Thanks. I did a little research... would this be what I'm looking for to make it work?

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-nvg-interface-shoe-for-anpvs-7b7d/
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That's a dovetail mount on your rhino and a bayonet mount on your jarm


Thanks. I did a little research... would this be what I'm looking for to make it work?

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-nvg-interface-shoe-for-anpvs-7b7d/


Agreed as well, this will work.
4/4/2016 9:27:10 PM EDT
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Thanks.

Being I have the mount and J-arm already, I'll pick up the adapter when I get a helmet.
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