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12/2/2013 1:53:38 PM EDT
So hunting for a laser and caught up in the BS of red vs green.  Are the cost and possible heat issues worth it?  Is there a serious risk of shutdown?  Or is this along the same lines as the AR15 is not a real battle rifle?

TIA
12/2/2013 2:03:52 PM EDT
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So hunting for a laser and caught up in the BS of red vs green.  Are the cost and possible heat issues worth it?  Is there a serious risk of shutdown?  Or is this along the same lines as the AR15 is not a real battle rifle?

TIA
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Visible Green is simply seen better than red due to your eye being more sensitive to green. Both Vis. lasers at 5mW power.  The green is less stable in colder weather (32def F and below) and can start to flicker (but NOT permanently damage the unit) in these extreme cold temps.  Red's are more stable in extreme cold but are seen at less distance during the day vs. the green.  Worst case bright sunny days on a dark target, red is seen 30 yards while the green at approx. 50 yards.  These ranges are approximate based on environment and target make up.

Hope this helps.

Vic
12/2/2013 2:06:54 PM EDT
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what vic said.  I can tell you, from using the I2, that the green is definitely more visible than the red in use.
12/2/2013 4:16:13 PM EDT
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Visible Green is simply seen better than red due to your eye being more sensitive to green. Both Vis. lasers at 5mW power.  The green is less stable in colder weather (32def F and below) and can start to flicker (but NOT permanently damage the unit) in these extreme cold temps.  Red's are more stable in extreme cold but are seen at less distance during the day vs. the green.  Worst case bright sunny days on a dark target, red is seen 30 yards while the green at approx. 50 yards.  These ranges are approximate based on environment and target make up.

Hope this helps.

Vic
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So hunting for a laser and caught up in the BS of red vs green.  Are the cost and possible heat issues worth it?  Is there a serious risk of shutdown?  Or is this along the same lines as the AR15 is not a real battle rifle?

TIA


Visible Green is simply seen better than red due to your eye being more sensitive to green. Both Vis. lasers at 5mW power.  The green is less stable in colder weather (32def F and below) and can start to flicker (but NOT permanently damage the unit) in these extreme cold temps.  Red's are more stable in extreme cold but are seen at less distance during the day vs. the green.  Worst case bright sunny days on a dark target, red is seen 30 yards while the green at approx. 50 yards.  These ranges are approximate based on environment and target make up.

Hope this helps.

Vic


Nice info vic, I had no idea about the cold weather.
12/2/2013 7:22:28 PM EDT
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Nice info vic, I had no idea about the cold weather.

I used to have a 200mW greenie, it had no problems at any temperatures, if there was flicker I havent noticed it, could have been negligible, definitely not a reason not to get it


OP, red laser will heat up more, but only if its 100mW or something, 5mW will never heat up to the point of self destruction



 
12/3/2013 9:24:35 AM EDT
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I've seen the green vs. the red many times now and I would ONLY ever go green for ANY outdoor activity due to the increased visibility and range.  Of course, being in FL, we don't often encounter sub-40 degree weather...
12/3/2013 2:18:35 PM EDT
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At the present time, I still prefer red because of the cold-weather issue.  

I'd rather have a crappy but consistent laser that I could depend on to be the same intensity every time than one that's unpredictable, great sometimes, but not so great other times.  Being cheaper doesn't hurt either.  

Nevertheless, I'd rather have a laser that I knew would only be useful to 15m, but would be useful to 15m 100% of the time, than one that's useful to 50m 50% of the time - easier to train for every eventuality when your limitations are constant rather than intermittent.  

~Augee
12/3/2013 2:24:54 PM EDT
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lasers are hardly affected by temperature, i owned 200mW greenie, took it to ukraine during winter holidays with -20*C and it worked perfectly fine, laser owners are very anal about their lasers beams, you guys should be least concerned if it flickers so negligeably that you can barely see it, besides lasers heat up and your flickers will be gone
12/3/2013 5:15:50 PM EDT
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i personally dont think its worth the extra money. Green washes out bad for me. That could be because my area's foliage is very bright green in spring and summer. I personally PREFER red, but thats just me. Lots of other people seem to prefer the green.
12/10/2013 10:42:48 PM EDT
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I've seen the green vs. the red many times now and I would ONLY ever go green for ANY outdoor activity due to the increased visibility and range.  Of course, being in FL, we don't often encounter sub-40 degree weather...
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I zeroed my red and IR tonight @ 200m with a balmy temp of -6F with 10mph NW breeze...didnt stick around long enough to let the unit get to that temp.
12/11/2013 1:39:06 AM EDT
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I left a LDI green DBAL-D2 in my vehicle over night at 38oF.



Wasn't able to get the green portion to light up for about an hour after I brought it in.  I don't mind it too much because I only use the green to zero the slaved IR laser.  However after that I recommend red lasers to the folks around here.




YMMV






12/11/2013 4:20:41 AM EDT
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lasers are hardly affected by temperature, i owned 200mW greenie, took it to ukraine during winter holidays with -20*C and it worked perfectly fine, laser owners are very anal about their lasers beams, you guys should be least concerned if it flickers so negligeably that you can barely see it, besides lasers heat up and your flickers will be gone
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I assure you a green laser will wack out below 32 and will wack out fast anywhere in the minus range trust me.
Red I have ran at -15 and they were fine.
OP in FL I would go green all day.
12/17/2013 9:14:26 AM EDT
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I was looking at buying a IR and visible laser system for night vision. Did some research after reading this thread. I found 2 good articles that talks about red vs. green.
Red is cheaper to manufacture due to the process involved to make a green one.
Due to the process, and the wave length of the green, makes it more finicky at lower temperatures.

shooting times article

american rifleman article
12/17/2013 9:45:44 AM EDT
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I just wish the Dbal lasers were slaved.  The CQBL-1, which is the same money, has slaved lasers, why cant the Dbal?  
12/17/2013 10:38:25 AM EDT
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Bought a black housing, IR with red visible laser for $646 shipped.
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