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10/12/2012 6:54:13 AM EDT
I am new to this forum so if this is out of line please let me know. I do have a Micro-14 NVS and love it. I have been looking at the different weapons lights that are available particularly the Surefire models and was wondering if there would be an interest for a drop-in laser module for these lights? I have a Surefire 6P and made a green laser drop-in module that works great I was just wondering if it would be worth my time to explore options for other lights or a waste of time?
If there is an interest I may start making them to sell.

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10/12/2012 8:38:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Is your design for illumination or aiming?  If aiming, how are you adjusting windage and elevation?  An IR drop-in with adjustment would be interesting as long as its cheaper than dedicated units.
10/12/2012 8:50:01 AM EDT
[#2]
laserpointer forums is full of inexpensive heatsinks to fit laser modules in all sorts of different flashlight hosts. the tricky part is windage and elevation. now if you could produce a replacement head, that will accept say a normal aixiz module, has windage and elevation, and different drivers for different power levels, you might be on to something. I had been toying with this myself, but I've been having trouble coming up with an inexpensive and quality adjustment.

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10/12/2012 9:08:13 AM EDT
[#3]
Yup.....especially if it was aimable...

Almost done with this....

10/12/2012 10:29:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the input, This first one is not amiable but that is very doable if it is incorporated into the head. Having different drivers is also no problem, the one I have now runs on 3V so to run in the 6P I remove one of the 123 batteries turn the other around ( green diodes run on + ground) and it works fine, it is machined to perfectly fit the host. I will build the next one to be adjustable and post the results. I should be able to do red, green or IR. I also do all my own machining.  I will also need to make sure it is dampened enough to withstand the shock of weapons fire. Also does anyone know if the 6P head will thread onto other bodies?

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10/12/2012 2:03:36 PM EDT
[#5]
The 6P head SHOULD fit on all M951/952/961/962 bodies, which is perfect because they are already setup for weapons mount!
10/14/2012 11:37:53 AM EDT
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The 6P head SHOULD fit on all M951/952/961/962 bodies, which is perfect because they are already setup for weapons mount!


Great, I am working on a total laser head replacement. It will be 316 stainless steel, totally adjustable and just about bullet proof. I am just waiting on some supplies to arrive.
If weight is a problem I could also make it in aluminum.
11/2/2012 2:05:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Well I am still working on this build and now have a design for the windage and elevation adjustments. I looked at other systems and most use springs and some even use rubber O-rings to pivot on, neither is good for hard recoil or impacts. However my system will be solid, once set there will be no chance of moving out of alignment and there the rub. It will not be cheap because all the shock is transmitted to the laser that means I have to rework every dpss green diode. The crystal and filters will need to be reinforced and then put back together and it may still not work? I think the first ones will be in the $200 range but if produced in larger numbers can come down in the $150 range and this is for green red will be cheaper. I started on the stainless one but decided it would be too expensive, maybe a custom one off.
Now the question do you think it would be something that would sell? I plan to go ahead and building at least two for testing and try to get someone here to test it for me. So what to you all think?
I there is no interest I do not want to wast too much time on this.
11/2/2012 2:26:26 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Well I am still working on this build and now have a design for the windage and elevation adjustments. I looked at other systems and most use springs and some even use rubber O-rings to pivot on, neither is good for hard recoil or impacts. However my system will be solid, once set there will be no chance of moving out of alignment and there the rub. It will not be cheap because all the shock is transmitted to the laser that means I have to rework every dpss green diode. The crystal and filters will need to be reinforced and then put back together and it may still not work? I think the first ones will be in the $200 range but if produced in larger numbers can come down in the $150 range and this is for green red will be cheaper. I started on the stainless one but decided it would be too expensive, maybe a custom one off.
Now the question do you think it would be something that would sell? I plan to go ahead and building at least two for testing and try to get someone here to test it for me. So what to you all think?
I there is no interest I do not want to wast too much time on this.


To be honest, I think for $200 you will not get enough interest in an unproven homebuilt laser when there are many commercial offerings out there from companies with manufacturing lineage.  You might want to check back after prototyping and testing before you drop alot of time and money into this.  I'm not doubting your technical ability to do this properly, only that commercially this may not make sense.  YMMV.
11/3/2012 7:51:54 AM EDT
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To be honest, I think for $200 you will not get enough interest in an unproven homebuilt laser when there are many commercial offerings out there from companies with manufacturing lineage.  You might want to check back after prototyping and testing before you drop alot of time and money into this.  I'm not doubting your technical ability to do this properly, only that commercially this may not make sense.  YMMV.



Thanks for your thoughts on this, and I do agree with you the more I think about, but I will still build two proto types ( I already ordered the parts ) and I be live they will look professional when I am done, I do have a CNC mill and Lathe and have been building lasers for about 7 years now as a hobby. And who knows if it turns out maybe I can sell the plan to a big manufacture?
I have been laid off now for two months so I have time on my hands.
11/3/2012 4:11:51 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in seeing one of your two prototype units
11/3/2012 5:24:58 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Well I am still working on this build and now have a design for the windage and elevation adjustments. I looked at other systems and most use springs and some even use rubber O-rings to pivot on, neither is good for hard recoil or impacts. However my system will be solid, once set there will be no chance of moving out of alignment and there the rub. It will not be cheap because all the shock is transmitted to the laser that means I have to rework every dpss green diode. The crystal and filters will need to be reinforced and then put back together and it may still not work? I think the first ones will be in the $200 range but if produced in larger numbers can come down in the $150 range and this is for green red will be cheaper. I started on the stainless one but decided it would be too expensive, maybe a custom one off.
Now the question do you think it would be something that would sell? I plan to go ahead and building at least two for testing and try to get someone here to test it for me. So what to you all think?
I there is no interest I do not want to wast too much time on this.


$150 plus a surefire host, plus a mount, plus a tape switch .... too much $$$.

oring plus spring plus set screws plus aixiz module sized heat sink plus a lighthound 6p host, plus mount plus tape switch for $100-$150 total and then we are talking. I don't think that's out of line considering the cost of heat sinks and laser kits being sold on laserpointerforums.

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