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4/29/2010 3:20:00 AM EDT
Got some interesting responses from this guy.

Does he have a reputation for good or bad service?

Searched every way I could think of, please help me out.
4/29/2010 6:39:35 AM EDT
[#1]
I've bought stuff from them, GTG afaik..
4/29/2010 11:54:15 AM EDT
[#2]
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Got some interesting responses from this guy.


I've read nothing but good over the years, tho he had some govt intimidation problems a while back. Could you give some details?
4/30/2010 1:00:41 PM EDT
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Got some interesting responses from this guy.


I've read nothing but good over the years, tho he had some govt intimidation problems a while back. Could you give some details?


That was due to the IR laser kit he was selling...
4/30/2010 1:16:37 PM EDT
[#4]
No, I meant details of the emails the OP referred to.
4/30/2010 1:53:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Can't really say until it all blows over.

Thanks for the info.
4/30/2010 4:42:56 PM EDT
[#6]
Never bought anything their but I have never heard any complaints either. Which is a good thing . I have noticed they have good deals on housings and parts. Very hard to find good parts at a decent price.
4/30/2010 11:51:36 PM EDT
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Take it to the Lights and Lasers section.
5/1/2010 11:18:05 AM EDT
[#8]
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Got some interesting responses from this guy.


I've read nothing but good over the years, tho he had some govt intimidation problems a while back. Could you give some details?


That was due to the IR laser kit he was selling...


He's a friend of mine. As I'm told, the legal problems were with lasers he converted (Visible OTALs to IR OTALS) for a company called TJ Tactical, who then sold them to a contractor type outfit in the sandbox, i.e. legit end users. The case also came at a time when Laser Devices went to someone, maybe the Justice Department, and launched a complaint against his company.  I understand that LDI did all of the testing of Tim's lasers for the prosecution. I don't want to say anything that I can't back up, but let's just say that Business is Business.

As for the charges against him, the mail fraud and counterfitting charges leveled on him were unprovable in court. The .gov had nothing that could intimate that the two companies conspired to defraud the .gov (the lasers were sold to the end users as some kind of Super OTAL) or prove that Tim sold the lasers to TJ Tactical as anything other than converted OTALs. TJ Tactical took a deal and got a tether and felony conviction for fingering Tim. The other charge was a Title 21 Regulatory Infraction, which 1) is a $1000 fine and not a criminal charge, 2) wasn't within the authority of the agency that charged him, 3)the judge couldn't even find the relevant code, let alone understand it after several .gov and .mil LE people testified, so the judge tossed that charge out too.

Tim took a hell of a beating over this, he lost his good name for a while and family turned him away. In addition to having 27 agents from various .gov and .mil offices in his home after having moved there a week or two prior, the .gov dragged it's junk in the dirt getting his case rolling, and has since threatened to re-charge him every time he asks for his stuff back. They still have property that was totally unrelated to the alleged crime they refuse to release, i.e. his computer with business records and tax info, firearms, parts and components etc. I think he's gotten to a point of resignation about getting his property back but gave up on the rest. We looked into making lasers after all this as the FDA guys intimated that it was possible to do it legally but a change in FDA Administration policy has made this null and void.
5/2/2010 2:59:10 PM EDT
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So what is the story on the IR laser kits?


Well, kind of like what the sales guy at the Harley dealer told my dad a few years ago when he asked what the chances were of getting the bike he had on the showroom: "Somewhere between Slim and None, and Slim just left town....".

Tim's doing well enough on the NVD stuff that the IR laser thing not working out hasn't killed him.
5/3/2010 12:29:25 PM EDT
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Well there was also the thing with their Cherokee laser, which was sold as a red/green laser but very easily amenable to conversion to IR.
5/3/2010 3:17:42 PM EDT
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Well there was also the thing with their Cherokee laser, which was sold as a red/green laser but very easily amenable to conversion to IR.


I don't think there were any issues with civvies getting IR diodes into any of his products  at his trial. It was strictly about the 10 OTALs he converted for TJ Tactical.

<removed, this forum is not a IR laser debate>
5/4/2010 4:33:46 AM EDT
[#12]
This thread is NOT a FDA debate or EBAY selling this or that for IR lasers. Take it to the lights and lasers forum
5/4/2010 6:19:56 AM EDT
[#13]
This thread will NOT turn into a legal debate on IR lasers period. We've seen this over and over again try to start on this forum and it will not happen again in this NV forum. Take it to the lights and lasers forum.  Thank you.

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