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Posted: 10/21/2008 4:58:43 PM EDT
| I am selling the ACOG off my LMT and going to be replacing it with a MKIV in 4.5-14x50 illuminated TMR from my 308. I would like to mount my MUM to the Leupy. Does anyone have an opinion on the Monolock or similar mounting options that mount the MUM directly to the scope? I understand that the scope will need to be kept at a very moderate power range, but other than that, how well do these work? Is it possible to clearly see coyote sized targets out to 300 yards with this setup? What else do I need to be aware of when pondering this? |
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The MUM universal adapter works well for this and does not cost $450.00. The mono IS a great system for those who want the machined aluminum fixture. With any NV optics on the back of a day scope, there will be some light loss so a Gen 3 and good glass always helps along with a dedicated IR illuminator. The sweet spot we have found is in the 6-8x range with a Gen 3 and a Leupy scope. Cranking up the mags will dim the show down in a hurry along with the resolution, hence the IR illuminator. Also, the question of moving your day scope forward (losing your day zero) to accommodate the NV or hanging it way back will be the choice you need to make. I keep a day zero and a night zero with one of my Leupy scopes seen below. The marketing hype "return to zero" with this or that mount NEVER really is an exact zero return, but for varmint hunting, I find this return to zero acceptable as long as I replace the scope in the original pic slots of course. Yotes are small critters as you know, but with a Gen 3 scope you can see them, but not as clear as let's say with a dedicated 6x weapon scope. I would say 200-250 yards with a piggyback system is more realistic. Hope this helps. Vic  
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| If you have a flip ip helmet mount for it already, try to look through the leupy w/ the monoc on your head. It takes some getting used to but this is what I am trying to transition to since it facilitates easier and safer scanning. Some gun/scope combinations lend themselves better to this than others. The hardest thing to get used to is working the focus the right direction (the first time) when going from scan to scope and vice versa. If you can get used to it, it's handier (IMHO) and eliminates the need to purchase a $200 piece of proprietary plastic or aluminum. |
Victor, not sure if I am following. Is the mount pictured a mono-lock? For my general, light use, what is the best value? Just a mount that will allow me to mount and dismount the MUM to a MKIV. Price? Thanks. |
Pictured above is a MUM Universal adapter. The Uni-Adapter is the best value for this setup. Vic |
Thanks Vic. Okay, the mount pictured is the MUM universal adapter. How much is it? Also, how much do you get for the Monolock and what are the effective differences between the 2? On the pictured universal adapter, how difficult is it to attach and remove the MUM from the MKIV? The MUM will not be on the carbine 99% of the time, but when it is mounted, I want it to be solid, consistent and easy to get on/take off. Lastly, can you explain how the process works? It seems to me, that there would be eye relief issues when you stick a 4 inch (or so) NVD between your eye and the ocular. Sorry, just trying to wrap my mind around this. |
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It works pretty slick, w/ a MUM the removal process is extremely simple. You grasp two tabs, depress and pull the mum back away from the scope, that easy. There are eye relief issues but, unless you are using it on a heavy recoiling caliber (which you shouldn't have a monoc on anyway), the issue is not a severe one. And don't bother trying to circumvent the problem by buying a long eye relief scope, this makes the FOV going into the monoc EXTREMELY TINY, like looking through a straw. Best bet is to either add a buttpad to increase length of pull or just practice w/ it and get used to it as is. The only issue I had w/ the universal adapter/monoc setup (besides having to scan w/ the rifle), was that some scopes just would not fit no matter what bushing I used in the UA. W/ my pvs-14 and UA it was my simmons 8-point 3-9x40 (laugh if you want but the damn thing held zero and produced a perfectly good image), and w/ my MUM/UA it is a Simmons 6-18x44AO target scope. Believe me I have tried and tried and the "just barely too small" bushing will absolutely not fit on it, and the "just barely too big" bushing will loosen to the point of almost falling off after a brisk run w/ it. It was this issue that started me on using the helmet mount, which I have all but gone to exclusively now. One great thing about the UA though, is the little rail on top of it. If your gun does not have a rail on it for IR illuminator mounting, this is invaluable. Just some things to think about. YMMV |
got sizes, i may be able to make you one up..... |
That sucks. Is anyone running this setup with zero issues? I am working on a helmet setup with a Norotos/Rhino mount. It is a very current 3 axis setup. Is it possible to use this with a MKIV? |
| That is the YMMV part; others have reported very favorable results, the-monoc-behind-day-optic configuration just doesn't work very well for ME as compared to other alternatives. The PVS monloc'd to the spotting scope is quite nice for looking at the sky at night though, particularly during a small moon. |
Really?? If I measure the ocular bell on my simmons 6-18 you think you can make one? If so, I'll measure it next time I head home for a weekend. Please PM me a potential price. Thanks! |
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