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Link Posted: 4/19/2019 3:41:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RealWildOne] [#1]
Individual form 4

check cashed 7/14/2018
dealer got stamp in the mail 4/19/2019

(edit to add page three ownage )
Link Posted: 4/19/2019 4:07:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Silencerco Chimera

Form 4 Individual

Purchased 06/15/18
Pending 07/12/18
Approved 04/17/19
278 days
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 3:53:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Form 4 SBR Trust 1 RP

Purchased: April 25th., 2018

Pending" June 12th., 2018

Prints Arrived: Unknown, dealer sent

Approved : April 16th., 2019

Stamp Arrived:???

Standardized wait: 308 days

State: NH
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 6:26:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: unseenSNIPER] [#4]
Form Type: Form 4

Transferee Type: 1RP Trust

Pending: 06/11/2018

Approved: 04/16/2019

Dealer Received: 4/22/19

Standardized wait: 309 days

State: TX
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 9:51:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Form 4 single shot trust

Griffin Recce 5
Purchase - 6/7/2018
Check cashed - 7/9/2018
Approved - 4/19/2019
Stamp Arrive at Dealer and in hand: 4/26/2019
Link Posted: 4/29/2019 11:09:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Admiral_Crunch] [#6]
Paper Form 4 individual

Silencerco Sparrow .22
SilencerCo Saker 7.62

Purchase - 6/9/2018 (give or take a week)
Dealer called saying I can pick them up: 4/26/2019
Wait time: Approx 321 days.
Link Posted: 4/29/2019 11:17:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: S1ug] [#7]
Trust, single RP.

3/10 submitted
DA Ghost45
DS Sandman S

3/21 submitted
Sico Maxim9
DA Wolverine
SiCo Omega9k

3/26 submitted
SiCo Octane45k
CZ S2 9mm Ti
YHM Turbo
IWI X95 SBR

All 9 approved 4/24/19!

Edit: approval date.
Link Posted: 4/30/2019 1:00:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#8]
Mod edit: Deleted for clean-up reasons. As your questions here: S1ug’s thread
Link Posted: 4/30/2019 2:02:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#9]
Deleted
Link Posted: 4/30/2019 10:07:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#10]
Deleted
Link Posted: 4/30/2019 8:06:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Form 4 trust

ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018
Approved 4/18/2019
At dealer 4/29/2019
Examiner: Carrie Fisher

Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending
Link Posted: 5/2/2019 3:46:15 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By jparish62:
Form 4 trust

ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018
Approved 4/18/2019
At dealer 4/29/2019
Examiner: Carrie Fisher

Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending
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@jparish62

How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees?  Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in?

For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward.

Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person?
Link Posted: 5/2/2019 5:33:55 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
@jparish62

How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees?  Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in?

For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward.

Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person?
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Form 4 trust

ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018
Approved 4/18/2019
At dealer 4/29/2019
Examiner: Carrie Fisher

Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending
@jparish62

How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees?  Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in?

For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward.

Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person?
It was Purley dumb luck that I happened to check in within a day of the examiner sending the letter to my FFL. I would have been approved, but that decision delayed it.

My successor trustee didn't either in mine. Literally all they were was a holding party until my beneficiaries were of age. Nothing more. It may be in your best interests to check in on it
Link Posted: 5/2/2019 6:44:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Form 4 Individual

Purchased 06/15/18
Check Cashed 07/09/18
Approved 04/23/19
At Dealer 05/02/19
Link Posted: 5/4/2019 10:39:54 AM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 5/5/2019 3:02:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#16]
Deleted per Rule #4
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 6:11:11 PM EDT
[#17]
This was a two stamp out of state transfer through a silencer shop powers dealer.

Form 4: individual seller to dealer.

Pending: 2/6/18

Approved 5/15/18

Form 4: dealer to individual buyer

Form Type: Form 4 (MG)

Transferee: Individual

Pending: 06/7/2018

Approved: 04/26/2019

Dealer Received: 5/7/19

Standardized wait: 335 days

State: TX
Link Posted: 5/11/2019 10:15:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Ghost M and Sandman S  purchased June 6 2018
Showed pending July 8 2018
Approved May 28 2019
Stamps at dealer April 9 2019
Woo Hoo!
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 10:13:00 AM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By Possum79:
Ghost M and Sandman S  purchased June 6 2018
Showed pending July 8 2018
Approved April 28 2019
Stamps at dealer May 9 2019
Woo Hoo!
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FIFY
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 11:06:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Form 4  Silencer Shop Single Shot Trust(s) with 1 Responsible Person

1 Obsidian 45

1 Razor 762

Purchased: 3/21/2018

Form 4: (Single Shot): Tax Stamp Cashed on 4/20/2018

Form 3: Disposed to Dealer On 4/24/2018

Pending FBI Background Check: 12/14/2018 Verified with Examiner via phone

Approved: 4/29/2019

Stamp In Hand 5/10/2019

Total Time: 1 year, 1 month, 19 days (415 days)
Link Posted: 5/14/2019 9:55:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seattle206] [#21]
F4 Trust x1 RP
Pending 7/26/18
Approved 5/13/19
Days 291
WA
Silencershop SDN6

F4 Trust x1 RP
Pending 7/30/18
Approved 5/13/19
Days 287
WA
Silencershop Sandman-K

Contacted an ATF director on 5/11/19 asking what's the hold up on my pending applications. My two previous F4's from 2019 were approved within 270 days or less. He expedited my pending applications to an examiner who approved them on the Monday 5/13/19.

I have a unique name, ultra clean record, and various documentations/security clearences held with TSA/DHS if that adds anything or not.
Link Posted: 5/16/2019 3:46:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: aeroworksxp] [#22]
Form 4 Trust (silencer shop Kiosk)
Wolf 9SD
Feb 28, 2018 (Order placed on SS website)
March 6, 2018 (Paperwork reviewed and completed by SS)
March 6, 2018 (Document ready to be signed arrives in my email)
March 18, 2018 (Application received by ATF - CHECK CASHED)  
March 20, 2018 (Form 3: Disposed to Dealer)
March 27, 2018 (Single shot trust documents arrive in email)

8/13/2018 Arial - Application is "Pending"
10/1/2018  Pending FBI background check
02/21/2019  Daffany - Still pending
4/28/2019   Stamp Approved
5/10/2019 ATF mails Approved Stamp (as printed on envelope)
5/16/2019   Call from FFL to pick up

429 days from checked cashed to FFL pickup
Link Posted: 5/16/2019 4:40:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hater] [#23]
Received email today.

Trust - 2 RP, me and my son.

Hybrid from BOGO promotion
Mailed 7/3/18
Pending 7/27/18
Stamp at dealer - 5/16/19

GET THIS!  Free Octane 9 from promotion
Mailed F4 - 12/21/18
Pending - Never Called
Stamp at dealer - 5/16/2019

Update - I have 14 cans in my truck. 8 F4's from July 18 and 6 BOGO freebies on F4's from December. Thee different trusts - 4, 3, &2 RP's. Batched approvals.
Link Posted: 5/16/2019 7:40:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mdavis] [#24]
4x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions)
Mailed: 10/9/18
Check Cashed: 10/16/18
Approved: 5/5/19 (208 days)

3x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions)
Mailed: 3/1/19
Credit Card Charged: 3/6/19
Approved (3 of 4): 5/5/19 (65 days)
Link Posted: 5/17/2019 12:04:45 AM EDT
[#25]
Form 4 Trust
Maxim 9
Pending 5/3/18
Approved 4/29/19
Dealer called 5/16/19
From cashed to hand 378 days
Link Posted: 5/18/2019 1:29:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Single Shot Trust
Sandman K
Purchased 12-8-2017
Check cashed 1-24-2018
Approved 5-2-2019
Picked up 5-17-2019

464 days.......
Link Posted: 5/18/2019 5:51:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 402joel] [#27]
Form 4 trust, purchased through silencer shop, and my ffl silencer shop powered dealer

Got 13 stamps in Friday’s mail- dated from 6-18 to 1-19

All 13 in separate envelopes, postmarked the same day

I’m still in shock- but I can’t stop grinning

Think I’ll go buy a lottery ticket

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 5/20/2019 10:57:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chinga_le] [#28]
Form 4 Trust thru SS
YHM Resonator
Purchased 5/25/18
Check Cashed 6/29/18
Pending 7/2/18
Approved 5/3/19
Dealer called 5/20/19
307 days from check cashed to approval
360 days from purchase to can in hand
Link Posted: 5/22/2019 3:46:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Form 4 Trust with 2 Responsible Persons via Silencer Shop kiosk

Blackhawk Gas Can x 2

Pending 7/2/2018
Approved 5/18/2019
Link Posted: 5/22/2019 3:57:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Form 4 Trust / 2 RP / Capitol Armory  
MPX-K SBR
Purchased - 5/08/18  
Forms Sent - 5/17/18  
Forms Received - June ?
Approved - 5/8/19  
Dealer Notified -  5/17/19

received 374 days after purchase
Link Posted: 5/22/2019 4:00:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TX-Zen] [#31]
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Originally Posted By 402joel:
Form 4 trust, purchased through silencer shop, and my ffl silencer shop powered dealer

Got 13 stamps in Friday's mail- dated from 6-18 to 1-19

All 13 in separate envelopes, postmarked the same day

I'm still in shock- but I can't stop grinning

Think I'll go buy a lottery ticket

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/243712/2BA9BD5C-9E17-45DF-A833-95D0CE414629_jpeg-949654.JPG
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Sweet!!! I got 13 back also

Purchased from May 2018 through November 2018, all approved May 5th 2019 by the same examiner (Listed as NCHARTSOC but the signature reads Anthony something or other). All were a combination of individual and trust. I did both to see which would come back faster but they all ended up the same

Pending:
May 10: Ghost M - Capitol Armory
August 13: YHM Resonator - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms
August 24: Sandman S - LGS
August 27: Larue Tranquillo - F3 Transfer Silencershop
September 17: Sandman K #2 - Capitol Armory
September 17: Sandman K #3 - Capitol Armory
September 18: Rugged Micro 30 - Capitol Armory
October 1: TBAC Ultra 5 - Capitol Armory
November 1: Sandman K - Silencer Shop/Primary ArmsNovember 1: Omega 9k - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms

November 1: DA Mask - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms
November 1: Wolf 9SD - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms
February 18: Omega 9k - LGS

Approved: All May 5th 2019
Capitol Armory mentioned that the ATF appears to be doing batch processing now, when your name comes up they check and see if anything else is pending and approve them all at once. Seems true enough

Link Posted: 5/22/2019 4:12:28 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By mdavis:
4x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions)
Mailed: 10/9/18
Check Cashed: 10/16/18
Approved: 5/5/19 (208 days)

3x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions)
Mailed: 3/1/19
Credit Card Charged: 3/6/19
Approved (3 of 4): 5/5/19 (65 days)
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65 Days?
Link Posted: 5/23/2019 1:09:09 AM EDT
[#33]
Form 4 Silencer on a trust with 2 RP

Purchased: 2/16/18

ATF Cashed check: 3/1/18

Approved: 5/15/19  440 days on the dot.

At Dealer: 5/21/19
Link Posted: 5/24/2019 6:40:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OAK667] [#34]
Form 4 Individual Paper, (2) Silencers

Purchased: 6/12/18

Prints Arrived: 7/12/18

Approved : 5/23/19

Post Marked: 6/3/19

Stamp Arrived: 6/8/19

Total wait: 361 days

State: IN
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So much for batch approval, I still have 7 pending from 8/18-1/19. If anyone has any idea who I would contact regarding a batch approval, please let me know.
Link Posted: 5/25/2019 1:26:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Form 4 individual paper.

1-12-18 mailed form 4

1-23-18 check cashed

8-23-18 status check and was told it was "in process".

8-24-18 called and was told pending FBI background

3-19-19 called and was told still pending FBI background. Spoke with examiner and was told FBI was currently processing background checks from 7-18 and could be several more months.

5-15-19 form was approved

5-24-19 form was at dealer and picked up can. From mailbox to mailbox 497 days or 16.33 months.
Link Posted: 5/25/2019 7:45:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#36]
Deleted per Rule #4
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 4:07:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DickDanger] [#37]
Saker 556

SS single shot 1rp 

Pending July 23, 2018

Approved May 23, 2019 

305 days I think 

Stamp in hand June 3, 2019

315 days

I have 5 other cans still pending so no batch approval for me
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 7:38:19 PM EDT
[#38]
LaRue SUURG

Form 4 (individual) submitted 6-14-2018

Check cashed 7-12-2018

Approved 5-9-2019

Arrived at Dealer 5-24-2019

317 days...
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 11:18:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kryptracker] [#39]
delete per 4
Link Posted: 5/31/2019 2:55:57 PM EDT
[#40]
AEM5 12th model- Capitol Armory

Purchased: 6/15/18
Pending: 7/15/18
Approved: 5/27/19
Received: ?

Looks like 10.5 months or so from going “pending” to “approved”. It’s been a a long wait, been building the rifle up to now. Can’t wait!
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 9:29:41 PM EDT
[#41]
Saker 7.62
Form 4
Trust (1 RP)
Pending: 7/2/18
Approved: 6/3/19
Standard wait: 336 days
State: Texas

Finally got my last can approved. Looking forward to picking it up.
Link Posted: 6/4/2019 4:24:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DCV_117] [#42]
Q Trash Panda
Silencer Shop individual

Purchased: 6/16/18
Stamp cashed: 7/11/18
Pending: 7/13/18

Approved: 5/30/19

320 days pending to approved

Stamp to dealer: June 7th
Link Posted: 6/5/2019 10:10:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bowhntr6pt] [#43]
Individual Form 4

YHM LT .30

Silencer Shop Kiosk

Filed 7-13-18

Check Cashed 7-24-18

Approved 5-30-19

Stamp at Dealer 6-14-19
Link Posted: 6/5/2019 2:16:51 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
Form 4 Individual Paper, (2) Silencers

Purchased: 6/12/18

Prints Arrived: 7/12/18

Approved : 5/23/19

Stamp Arrived: ?/?/??

Standardized wait: 315 days

State: IN
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So much for batch approval, I still have 7 pending from 8/18-1/19. If anyone has any idea who I would contact regarding a batch approval, please let me know.
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Some have had luck speaking to examiner and having them use the proceeded background checks on the pending applications.
Link Posted: 6/5/2019 5:14:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WhisperPickle] [#45]
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Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt:
Individual Form 4

YHM LT .30

Silencer Shop Kiosk

Check Cashed 7-24-19

Approved 5-30-19

Stamp at Dealer ?
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Very similar for me.

Surefire SOCOM RC
SS kiosk
Check cashed 07/07/18
Approved 05/30/19
Stamp received 06/14/19
Link Posted: 6/6/2019 8:12:30 AM EDT
[#46]
Form 4

2 suppressors from Silencer Shop on 2 person trust

purchased: 6/11/2018

Check Cashed: 7/11/2018

Approved: 5/25/2019

Received: 6/3/2019

So almost 1 year from purchase.
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 8:47:47 PM EDT
[#47]
Individual form 4 for factory SBR:

Check cashed 7/23/18
Approved 5/30/19
Stamp arrived at dealer 6/7/19
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 9:35:36 PM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By searchin4shacks:
Form 4

2 suppressors from Silencer Shop on 2 person trust

purchased: 6/11/2018

Check Cashed: 7/11/2018

Approved: 5/25/2019

Received: 6/3/2019

So almost 1 year from purchase.
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Similar timeline as mine:

Purchased:  06/10/2018

Check cashed:  07/10/2018

Approved: ??

At dealer:  06/07/2019

Time to bow out of this thread for a while.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 8:26:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RDak] [#49]
Submitted 7/28/2018.

FFL gets Stamp 6/6/2019.

(Individual Form 4)
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 4:17:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TN-MadDog] [#50]
UPDATE

Individual form 4 through Silencer Shop.

Purchased 8/20/2018

Check cashed 9/6/2018

I never called to get a pending date

Approved 5/23/2019

FFL Dealer called me 6/6/2019 and said that he had received my approved paperwork.

259 days from check cashed to approved.

290 days from purchased to arrival at the dealer.
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