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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:13:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Moses_J:
Got this in the mail today. Hopefully my 3/10/18 Form4 will be released soon. My respect for Burr has definitely increased. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/222364/Screenshot_20181220-221745_Gallery_jpg-779601.JPG Ted Budd's office was very helpful as well and stated they handle many of these cases on a weekly basis. Feel free to share this email on ARF. ...so it looks like NC folks have at least 2 reps that are willing to help. 
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Posted: 12/21/2018 1:33:51 PM EDT
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Just a note... but when you are given the opportunity to fill out the privacy release, make sure to note that your problem is with the FBI (assuming you are being told they are waiting on the fbi background check), not the atf, which has apparently, actually done all it can.
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:23:16 PM EDT
[#3]
I have a SS Form 1 SBR pending since 4/19/18 (check cashed).
Am I screwed? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:29:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTBJW:
I have a SS Form 1 SBR pending since 4/19/18 (check cashed). Am I screwed? |
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Posted: 12/21/2018 11:30:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTBJW:
I have a SS Form 1 SBR pending since 4/19/18 (check cashed). Am I screwed? |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 10:25:28 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kingpenm3: When you call the atf (304-616-4500) do they tell you that you are pending fbi background check? |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 10:28:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Same boat as a buddy of mine here in ga. He sent Doug Collins office a email and they are slowly working with him to correct it. No idea if it will work. Anyone have have any luck with him? |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 7:13:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Well no tax stamps now!
Gov shutdown will only delay this further... |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 7:23:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Really? Shutdown affects NFA branch?
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Posted: 12/22/2018 7:37:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Copied and paste:
Nine federal departments will be shuttered as the government shuts down this weekend. They are: -Department of the Treasury -Department of Agriculture -Homeland Security Department -Department of the Interior -Department of State -Department of Housing and Urban Development -Department of Transportation -Department of Commerce -Department of Justice |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 7:46:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Copied and paste: Nine federal departments will be shuttered as the government shuts down this weekend. They are: -Department of the Treasury -Department of Agriculture -Homeland Security Department -Department of the Interior -Department of State -Department of Housing and Urban Development -Department of Transportation -Department of Commerce -Department of Justice |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 9:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Yes, but not all of the sub-departments are closed. For example, FBI is part of Department of Justice but it isn't closed. 
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Posted: 12/22/2018 10:00:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99:
Not like we can get any work outta them anyway... https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_banghead.gif |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 10:09:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Copied and paste: Nine federal departments will be shuttered as the government shuts down this weekend. They are: -Department of the Treasury -Department of Agriculture -Homeland Security Department -Department of the Interior -Department of State -Department of Housing and Urban Development -Department of Transportation -Department of Commerce -Department of Justice |
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Posted: 12/22/2018 11:52:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
Source? Seems like some of these wouldn't be "non-essential" which are what the shutdown is supposed to be effecting. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty on this list that I consider non-essential but Dept. of State and DOJ seem somewhat essential. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
Originally Posted By swampvol:
Copied and paste: Nine federal departments will be shuttered as the government shuts down this weekend. They are: -Department of the Treasury -Department of Agriculture -Homeland Security Department -Department of the Interior -Department of State -Department of Housing and Urban Development -Department of Transportation -Department of Commerce -Department of Justice Obviously any law enforcement component will be open. Don’t know about NFA branch, but with Christmas coming up, I wasn’t expecting much work from anyone .gov until after the new year. |
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Posted: 12/29/2018 6:04:17 PM EDT
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Got word from my dealer that nfa is not processing forms during the shutdown, more waiting for all, Happy New Year!
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Posted: 12/30/2018 1:20:19 PM EDT
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The question in my mind... is the FBI still processing background checks during the shutdown? I would assume they are still processing Title I NICS checks, I just don't know that they are doing the same for Title II.
My eForm is pending background (which would seem to indicate that the BGC nonsense follows you from paper to eForm). Either way, it'd be nice if the FBI were busy processing away, being efficient and getting caught up on their backlog. Haha... yeah, probably not. Still, I wouldn't mind so much if there were a chance my BGC would be sitting there ready for approval once the NFA Branch is back up and running. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 9:26:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
The question in my mind... is the FBI still processing background checks during the shutdown? I would assume they are still processing Title I NICS checks, I just don't know that they are doing the same for Title II. My eForm is pending background (which would seem to indicate that the BGC nonsense follows you from paper to eForm). Either way, it'd be nice if the FBI were busy processing away, being efficient and getting caught up on their backlog. Haha... yeah, probably not. Still, I wouldn't mind so much if there were a chance my BGC would be sitting there ready for approval once the NFA Branch is back up and running. But yeah it would be nice if they would catch up. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 12:43:41 PM EDT
[#19]
They are indeed still answering the line at the NFA branch
Not sure that means anything though |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2019 3:05:37 PM EDT
[#20]
I contacted Rep. Hudson (NC-8) on 12/03/18 and got an immediate acknowledgement and the paperwork required. Filled it out and mailed it to him; the week before Christmas one of his staffers emailed me and said the BATFE hasn't responded to their inquiry yet.
I've been in FBI BGC purgatory since August 2018, check was cashed 13 February 2018. I'm closing in on a year now. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:11:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOx:
I contacted Rep. Hudson (NC-8) on 12/03/18 and got an immediate acknowledgement and the paperwork required. Filled it out and mailed it to him; the week before Christmas one of his staffers emailed me and said the BATFE hasn't responded to their inquiry yet. I've been in FBI BGC purgatory since August 2018, check was cashed 13 February 2018. I'm closing in on a year now. I contacted my reps office (and they have been a help) but was recently told by them that due to the shutdown they aren't getting any responses to their inquiries. At this point, I'm just doing my best to forget about the process. My cans were bought primarily for hunting rifles so I'm hoping this mess will be cleaned up 8 or 9 months from now when the seasons open again. Probably buy a couple of rimfire cans at some point but this experience has left a real bad taste in my mouth about building a stamp collection. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 4:48:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
They are indeed still answering the line at the NFA branch Not sure that means anything though |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 5:08:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Has anyone just called and straight up asked if they're approving stuff during shutdown?
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Posted: 1/2/2019 5:12:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Has anyone just called and straight up asked if they're approving stuff during shutdown? I went down a list of questions that I was forwarding to my congressman. He was annoyed as fuck and basically said theres nothing out of the usual with the amount of time you have waited. 
Finally did figure out they did give me an examiner. But they cant tell me when they send the paperwork to the FBI or when the examiner was assigned. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 5:16:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOx:
I contacted Rep. Hudson (NC-8) on 12/03/18 and got an immediate acknowledgement and the paperwork required. Filled it out and mailed it to him; the week before Christmas one of his staffers emailed me and said the BATFE hasn't responded to their inquiry yet. I've been in FBI BGC purgatory since August 2018, check was cashed 13 February 2018. I'm closing in on a year now. They shouldn’t be asking the ATF anything. The inquiry needs to go to the FBI. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 10:26:20 PM EDT
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I requested the inquiry go to the FBI and the ATF.
His office indicated they were waiting on a response from each. I have a friend in Martinsburg WV that swears the ATF does the background checks, not the FBI. That's a huge part of the frustration; not really knowing how the system works. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 10:34:09 PM EDT
[#27]
Sent my rep. an email today about my form 4s. The checks were cashed Dec 19 2017 so it's been over a year now. Pending FBI at least 6 months or so. Hopefully Lance Gooden will get me out of the black hole.
I have 5 more form 4s submitted since then. What are the chances that my examiner will approve them all once my background comes back for the first 2? |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 10:41:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOx:
I requested the inquiry go to the FBI and the ATF. His office indicated they were waiting on a response from each. I have a friend in Martinsburg WV that swears the ATF does the background checks, not the FBI. That's a huge part of the frustration; not really knowing how the system works. It is so f*cked up. |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 11:09:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
Has anyone just called and straight up asked if they're approving stuff during shutdown? |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 11:40:34 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Yep. The response my Rep. got from the FBI was that the ATF, not them, do the background checks. It is so f*cked up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By TheOx:
I requested the inquiry go to the FBI and the ATF. His office indicated they were waiting on a response from each. I have a friend in Martinsburg WV that swears the ATF does the background checks, not the FBI. That's a huge part of the frustration; not really knowing how the system works. It is so f*cked up. I'm just guessing though |
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Posted: 1/2/2019 11:47:49 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By supersampson12:
Sent my rep. an email today about my form 4s. The checks were cashed Dec 19 2017 so it's been over a year now. Pending FBI at least 6 months or so. Hopefully Lance Gooden will get me out of the black hole. I have 5 more form 4s submitted since then. What are the chances that my examiner will approve them all once my background comes back for the first 2? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:34:57 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By supersampson12:
Sent my rep. an email today about my form 4s. The checks were cashed Dec 19 2017 so it's been over a year now. Pending FBI at least 6 months or so. Hopefully Lance Gooden will get me out of the black hole. I have 5 more form 4s submitted since then. What are the chances that my examiner will approve them all once my background comes back for the first 2? I emailed both my senator and congressman Nothing happened I called both around 1PM the other day. They were calling me back by the end of the day |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Effenpig: My personal theory is that the ATF runs NICS checks just like an FFL. If they dont get an instant pass then they get forwarded to the FBI I'm just guessing though Everyone says its really the FBI that needs to be contacted, and I don't disagree, but IMO the entire issue is created and controlled by the ATF. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 12:02:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
I may do it tomorrow. I've heard that the're doing 2s, 3s, and transfers to government agencies, but no 1s and 4s for us. I have no idea if it's true. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Has anyone just called and straight up asked if they're approving stuff during shutdown? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 12:20:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
I just called in to check the status on a F4. Still pending. I asked Melissa who answered the phone if they were processing Form 1s and 4s during the shutdown and she said "Not at this time." 
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Posted: 1/3/2019 12:44:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
I wish I had chosen a hobby that didnt have so much red tape Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Originally Posted By jhereg:
I just called in to check the status on a F4. Still pending. I asked Melissa who answered the phone if they were processing Form 1s and 4s during the shutdown and she said "Not at this time." |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 6:20:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Does anyone have a template I can use to send to my local rep about a suppressor pending FBI background check?
Not sure what exactly to say |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 7:39:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NotanATFagent:
Does anyone have a template I can use to send to my local rep about a suppressor pending FBI background check? Not sure what exactly to say |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:26:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
PM sent Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
Originally Posted By NotanATFagent:
Does anyone have a template I can use to send to my local rep about a suppressor pending FBI background check? Not sure what exactly to say |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:30:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Burnit53]
[#40]
dupe
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:53:58 PM EDT
[#41]
This entire system is antiquated and needs a serious rework.
Any one of these agencies can type our ssn in their computer and see exactly who we are to include a picture and fingerprints. It's not rocket science. And why does it take more time to approve a muffler than a passport. One can get a passport inside of 2 days, same day if you go to the right office. Staggers the imagination!!! |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 7:01:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: red6actual]
[#42]
Still pending after 1 calender year today, unacceptable
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Posted: 1/5/2019 12:35:41 AM EDT
[#43]
My check was cashed 12-21-17.... still waiting. I just wrote my representative.... not sure it will help
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Posted: 1/5/2019 12:58:45 AM EDT
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May I also get a copy of the language to use? Thanks!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2019 11:48:25 PM EDT
[#45]
I would like to get a copy of the letter to send to my congressman.
Thanks To whom ever can send it. Or just post it here for all of us to copy and paste it. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 1:45:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller:
Still pending after 1 calender year today, unacceptable |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 7:19:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NotanATFagent:
Does anyone have a template I can use to send to my local rep about a suppressor pending FBI background check? Not sure what exactly to say Originally Posted By Burnit53:
Would like as well. THX Originally Posted By martinmayhem:
May I also get a copy of the language to use? Thanks! Originally Posted By Rockyriver:
I would like to get a copy of the letter to send to my congressman. Thanks To whom ever can send it. Or just post it here for all of us to copy and paste it. @BigWaylon |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 11:24:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: 4 requests (and counting) for boilerplate examples, just on page 20. Perhaps this would be worthy of a tacked thread? There's certainly interest in the topic. @BigWaylon |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 2:19:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
If OP would change the thread title, I think tacking it would be beneficial. It looks like OP has ghosted, are mods able to change thread titles? I also don't have a "boilerplate template", I've just been sending folks the email thread between my congressman's office and myself. For that reason I've not simply pasted here in the thread. I can change the title and make it bold. That would probably be better since most people seem to ignore get stickies. And if somebody has an example of what they’ve been sending, I could add it to the first post as well. |
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Posted: 1/6/2019 2:45:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
I can change it to whatever I want. What are y'all thinking it needs to be called? I don't plan on making it a sticky, but I have set it to not archive (I don't think that'll be an issue since it stays pretty active). I can change the title and make it bold. That would probably be better since most people seem to ignore get stickies. And if somebody has an example of what they've been sending, I could add it to the first post as well. |
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