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Posted: 6/15/2016 10:51:16 PM EDT
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As an instructor, someone asked about how to handle the notification requirement. My agency is likely to receive the requests, so we need a solution.
My state forbids gun registration. So, the agency cannot keep or store forms. We can't record who has what gun. I was thinking of a simple email format to send in the notification and form. The person would receive a response saying the agency was notified. That was all they needed to keep. The agency then deletes the information. Does this sound reasonable? Not here for a debate about 41F. It is stupid and we have an anti-gun NFA organization to blame. None of mine are in my name, for a reason 
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Op.. I am going out on a limb...
I think if you contact the State AG's office you may find that NFA items fall in a different category and those restrictions may not apply. On the other hand I could see CLEO's just throwing them in a pile in a drawer somewhere because they have no control over it any way. It will just be more crap to clutter the desk. It will be a defacto go fuck your self notice. I AM doing this. Like it or not. |
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Email creates a trail My employer would be receiving them, for the CLEO requirement. That is why I like the idea. It allows the sender to have a record they met the ATF requirements, from an email saying the agency received the item. Our server has an expiration on all emails, which is a short time frame. So, it would also eliminate the idea of keeping the record and there would be no automatic retention because it is an email. I have never done a personal NFA item, since I have not wanted any local having a record of it. Now that it is changing, I am trying to think of the easiest way to make sure these records are not retained in violation of our law forbdding any form of documentation/registration of weapons
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On the other hand I could see CLEO's just throwing them in a pile in a drawer somewhere because they have no control over it any way. It will just be more crap to clutter the desk. It will be a defacto go fuck your self notice. I AM doing this. Like it or not. Kind of like the multiple gun sales reports...... I heard they are shredded upon receipt. |
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My employer would be receiving them, for the CLEO requirement. That is why I like the idea. It allows the sender to have a record they met the ATF requirements, from an email saying the agency received the item. Our server has an expiration on all emails, which is a short time frame. So, it would also eliminate the idea of keeping the record and there would be no automatic retention because it is an email. I have never done a personal NFA item, since I have not wanted any local having a record of it. Now that it is changing, I am trying to think of the easiest way to make sure these records are not retained in violation of our law forbdding any form of documentation/registration of weapons
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Email creates a trail My employer would be receiving them, for the CLEO requirement. That is why I like the idea. It allows the sender to have a record they met the ATF requirements, from an email saying the agency received the item. Our server has an expiration on all emails, which is a short time frame. So, it would also eliminate the idea of keeping the record and there would be no automatic retention because it is an email. I have never done a personal NFA item, since I have not wanted any local having a record of it. Now that it is changing, I am trying to think of the easiest way to make sure these records are not retained in violation of our law forbdding any form of documentation/registration of weapons
Why add another step that is not required. I don't need/want your affirmation on the receipt of notification. I fulfilled my obligation by sending it to you. "Police" your agency for compliance to state law all you want, but leave us alone! |
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CLEO does not get to decide how notification occurs. Since a copy of the form must be sent most folks will likely print/send a copy by mail. Especially since the form itself provides a line for you to enter the address where the notification was either mailed to or delivered. |
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Quoted: My employer would be receiving them, for the CLEO requirement.
That is why I like the idea. It allows the sender to have a record they met the ATF requirements, from an email saying the agency received the item. Our server has an expiration on all emails, which is a short time frame. So, it would also eliminate the idea of keeping the record and there would be no automatic retention because it is an email. I have never done a personal NFA item, since I have not wanted any local having a record of it. Now that it is changing, I am trying to think of the easiest way to make sure these records are not retained in violation of our law forbdding any form of documentation/registration of weapons Just shred them upon receipt. No email to sender. BATFE - did you receive notification from the UV18 trust they were filing a Form 1? Agency - no idea, we shred all that Fed.gov bs on receipt. BATFE - 
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