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7/26/2013 1:48:31 PM EDT
was messing around and thought it was interesting that in the last  year Texas had 440 suppressor apps sent in and only 34 were individual the others were all trusts or at least that is what was reported to nfa tracker.

That site is very cool
7/26/2013 2:05:17 PM EDT
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Yeah lots of lazy people use trusts.

7/26/2013 3:08:51 PM EDT
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Bear in mind, only a tiny percentage of people actually put their info in to NFA Tracker.
7/27/2013 5:25:15 PM EDT
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I would take this a step further that there is probably a strong correlation between the internet savvy crowd that uses nfatracker and the trust crowd, which is a NFA ownership technique heavily propagated on the internet.

From what I understand, TX has had long standing issues with various LEOs declining to sign forms despite being a pro-gun state, which would also account for accelerated trust usage.
7/27/2013 5:39:57 PM EDT
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I don't know why I did not consider that lol after my first suppressor I did as an individual and it took 3 weeks to get the Leo sign off   I purchased willmaker and made a trust myself.
7/27/2013 5:50:51 PM EDT
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Yep.

I don't input any data into NFA Tracker, and I am heavily active in buying/making NFA items.
7/27/2013 8:22:17 PM EDT
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Below is very similar to what we had here , NFA items and ownership locally varies alot as the major CLEO people retire. APD also at 1 time had a $150 fee for processing Form 1 & 4's .
also wanted you to fill out a 17 page packet and have an interview with the department THEN wait 90 days for them to get back to you ..


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I would take this a step further that there is probably a strong correlation between the internet savvy crowd that uses nfatracker and the trust crowd, which is a NFA ownership technique heavily propagated on the internet.

From what I understand, TX has had long standing issues with various LEOs declining to sign forms despite being a pro-gun state, which would also account for accelerated trust usage.
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Bear in mind, only a tiny percentage of people actually put their info in to NFA Tracker.

I would take this a step further that there is probably a strong correlation between the internet savvy crowd that uses nfatracker and the trust crowd, which is a NFA ownership technique heavily propagated on the internet.

From what I understand, TX has had long standing issues with various LEOs declining to sign forms despite being a pro-gun state, which would also account for accelerated trust usage.

7/28/2013 2:58:20 AM EDT
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I know your only joking

But I am lucky enough to have a CLEO that will sign as he knows me.  But I choose a trust, with no offense to my CLEO, because I don't feel I should have to "ASK PERMISSION" to buy something that is legal.  Trust also allows the benefit of Co-trustee's so IF I choose one or more people(family) can use my toys without me having to be there.
7/28/2013 11:16:32 AM EDT
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My first couple NFA items are papered to me.  I had no problem with CLEO signature since the Sheriff had known my Dad for years.  I just popped into his office for his signature.  He had one of the sheriffs from one of the neighboring counties in there chatting with him.  The other sheriff asked about what I was getting, and it didn't bother him that I was buying two suppressors.  To bad my sheriff passed away shortly after that, but I go the corporate route now since I want to keep my NFA items in the family, to pass along eventually to my nephew and my nieces.  When me and my brother retire from the military, we'll be using the corp either as a gun dealership or for firearms training.
7/28/2013 2:52:00 PM EDT
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My first couple NFA items are papered to me.  I had no problem with CLEO signature since the Sheriff had known my Dad for years.  I just popped into his office for his signature.  He had one of the sheriffs from one of the neighboring counties in there chatting with him.  The other sheriff asked about what I was getting, and it didn't bother him that I was buying two suppressors.  To bad my sheriff passed away shortly after that, but I go the corporate route now since I want to keep my NFA items in the family, to pass along eventually to my nephew and my nieces.  When me and my brother retire from the military, we'll be using the corp either as a gun dealership or for firearms training.
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You do relize you don't have to pay another $200 to "keep them in the family" right?

As long as you leave them to ANYONE in your will who can own a gun they can get any NFA item left to them after your demise TAX FREE.
7/28/2013 2:57:03 PM EDT
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Below is very similar to what we had here , NFA items and ownership locally varies alot as the major CLEO people retire. APD also at 1 time had a $150 fee for processing Form 1 & 4's .
also wanted you to fill out a 17 page packet and have an interview with the department THEN wait 90 days for them to get back to you ..



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Below is very similar to what we had here , NFA items and ownership locally varies alot as the major CLEO people retire. APD also at 1 time had a $150 fee for processing Form 1 & 4's .
also wanted you to fill out a 17 page packet and have an interview with the department THEN wait 90 days for them to get back to you ..


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Bear in mind, only a tiny percentage of people actually put their info in to NFA Tracker.

I would take this a step further that there is probably a strong correlation between the internet savvy crowd that uses nfatracker and the trust crowd, which is a NFA ownership technique heavily propagated on the internet.

From what I understand, TX has had long standing issues with various LEOs declining to sign forms despite being a pro-gun state, which would also account for accelerated trust usage.




but with the passing of HB319 this would be unlawful now, has anybody challenged it yet?

HB 319 also requires the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) in Alaska jurisdictions to complete, in a timely manner, the required certification on an application to the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) for approval to transfer a firearm registered under the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934 to a person who is qualified under state law to possess the firearm.

The CLEO certification is a mandatory step in the BATFE transfer process and unjustified delays in processing or refusal to cooperate compromise Second Amendment rights.

House Bill 319 makes commonsense changes to our ACHP statutes and ensures that NFA firearms transfers are not inappropriately obstructed.
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