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8/23/2012 12:56:30 PM EDT
I need a copy of Schedule of Compensation for Trustee. I bought an AAC silencer in 2009 with  a Trust with no trouble. I went to get another one and use same Trust but Bulls Eye noticed the "Schedule" was missing. Jeremy at Bulls Eye said they would reject my stamp and I needed to get a copy.  If anyone has a copy this would help me out a bunch.

 THANKS, Jeremy
8/23/2012 1:25:49 PM EDT
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Are you sure he wasn't talking about the Schedule A?
8/23/2012 1:31:13 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, he even wrote a sticky note "Schedule of Compensation" . In the Trust it is worded that it is attached but I never received a copy.
8/23/2012 3:40:12 PM EDT
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Schedule A, says what the trust owns is what is needed

I send schedule A that has to the effect

AAC 762SD Serial # qqqqqqq (pending ATF approval)

that way I don't let my dealer see everything on my trust
8/23/2012 4:17:18 PM EDT
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I need a copy of Schedule of Compensation for Trustee. I bought an AAC silencer in 2009 with  a Trust with no trouble. I went to get another one and use same Trust but Bulls Eye noticed the "Schedule" was missing. Jeremy at Bulls Eye said they would reject my stamp and I needed to get a copy.  If anyone has a copy this would help me out a bunch.

 THANKS, Jeremy


Why didn't Jeremy give you one? They do free trust for their customers who buy something....
8/24/2012 3:51:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Guess I could make another Trust I was just going to use same one from last time. If I can't find a copy I'll just get a new trust.
8/24/2012 10:13:27 AM EDT
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Guess I could make another Trust I was just going to use same one from last time. If I can't find a copy I'll just get a new trust.


I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.
8/24/2012 2:06:07 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.
8/24/2012 4:01:29 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.


Big +1.

OP - if it's only listed in your original trust once, cross or white out through that section and send it on.  Revocable trusts can be amended by the grantor until the day they die.
8/24/2012 4:25:24 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.


Yeah but if someone knows what they're doing, it should be fine. Most of the lawyers they get their Trust in books too, many public people have access to these documents.

Its just like writing a will, if someone knows how to word it right, theres nothing wrong with it. You hire a lawyer to do it RIGHT. Now if you make a mistake, there will be trouble. Just like those programs that write up Trusts, those aren't lawyers. Ha
8/25/2012 2:47:50 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.


Yeah but if someone knows what they're doing, it should be fine. Most of the lawyers they get their Trust in books too, many public people have access to these documents.

Its just like writing a will, if someone knows how to word it right, theres nothing wrong with it. You hire a lawyer to do it RIGHT. Now if you make a mistake, there will be trouble. Just like those programs that write up Trusts, those aren't lawyers. Ha


It's not fine.  They're practicing law without a license which is illegal.
8/25/2012 6:04:52 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.


Yeah but if someone knows what they're doing, it should be fine. Most of the lawyers they get their Trust in books too, many public people have access to these documents.

Its just like writing a will, if someone knows how to word it right, theres nothing wrong with it. You hire a lawyer to do it RIGHT. Now if you make a mistake, there will be trouble. Just like those programs that write up Trusts, those aren't lawyers. Ha


It's not fine.  They're practicing law without a license which is illegal.


Well someone better call Quicken.
8/25/2012 7:26:59 PM EDT
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I guess you can make another Trust... Jeremy from Bullseye do free trust for their buying customers.


Yeah, FFLs that do that, but are not lawyers, are really just asking for trouble.


Yeah but if someone knows what they're doing, it should be fine. Most of the lawyers they get their Trust in books too, many public people have access to these documents.

Its just like writing a will, if someone knows how to word it right, theres nothing wrong with it. You hire a lawyer to do it RIGHT. Now if you make a mistake, there will be trouble. Just like those programs that write up Trusts, those aren't lawyers. Ha


It's not fine.  They're practicing law without a license which is illegal.


Well someone better call Quicken.


Completely different situation.

You can buy contracts as stores like Staples and Office Max but they aren't practicing law w/o a license.

It's highly unlikely an FFL is just handing a person off the street a trust and telling them to fill it out without providing them information about how to do so.  That "coaching" is practicing w/o a license.
8/26/2012 3:43:54 AM EDT
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You can buy contracts as stores like Staples and Office Max but they aren't practicing law w/o a license.

It's highly unlikely an FFL is just handing a person off the street a trust and telling them to fill it out without providing them information about how to do so.  That "coaching" is practicing w/o a license.


+1.
8/26/2012 9:22:29 AM EDT
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So a program can assist a person to make a Trust, but someone who has public access to Trust documents, can't?
8/26/2012 10:43:58 AM EDT
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So a program can assist a person to make a Trust, but someone who has public access to Trust documents, can't?

Quicken Willmaker and other legal software is just a series of blank templates. Same as if you had purchased blank forms from an office supply store.

You buy it, you fill it out. No problem.

When someone else fills it in for you, however, that act could be considered as constituting the practice of law. You need to be licensed to fill in those blanks for a third party, or to advise someone how to fill them in. That is what lawyers do. Offering to do so for your customers makes it an integral part of the sale, and thus, the FFL is being paid to practice law.

So if an FFL who is not a lawyer hands you a stack of blank forms, that is legal.

And if an FFL who is not a lawyer hands sits you down at a computer and tells you to click on the Quicken icon, then walks away, that is legal, too.

But if they touch the keyboard, or tell you anything about how to fill it out, they may be prosecuted for practicing law without a license, which is a felony.

And that could cost them their FFL, so IMHO it is very unwise for an FFL to do so.
8/26/2012 5:44:14 PM EDT
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Jeremy, I am guessing that you have one of Doug's trusts (or copied someone that does) based on your location.  What others have done to resolve this is create a separate page with formatting just like the rest of your trust with the information below.  I am not a lawyer, just stating what others have done.  One would replace "Section 9" below with whatever is appropriate but I will go out on a limb and guess that yours is also Section 9.

STATE OF GEORGIA

COUNTY OF <COUNTY NAME>

<Name of Revocable Living Trust>

Schedule of Compensation for Trustees

The trustees agree to forgo compensation at this time and until any further amendment is agreed upon in accordance with Section 9 of the Declaration of Trust.
8/26/2012 6:46:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Thanks Matthew, you are correct. I will try your idea since I'm unable to get in touch with him. I thought someone might have a way or idea to fix this.
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