Armory Sponsor
Posted: 7/12/2011 3:03:41 PM EDT
|
Im Military and want to get a supressor and register my GSG to make it an SBR. I'm a legal resident of FL, and still maintain an address there, but I am stationed in NC. Do I go about the process like Im in FL or go through the even tighter hoops here in NC? Would it be easier to go the trust route?
I work with a guy who is also from FL and has a can that he says he got after he moved here from FL and its registered in FL, and was shipped to a cl3 dealer down there and he just made the trip down to get it. I think my head may explode  ....
|
|
Quoted:
forget class 3 until you retire and are only in one state if you move them state to state you need BATFE permission and are required to notify them if it is moved from one address to another even in the same town. This post is FULL OF FAIL. Lots of people in the service have class 3 stuff. Everyone who moves NFA stuff state to state has to file a 5320.20. It's not a big deal.... and you are NOT required to notify them for a in-state move, though it's probably a good idea. If you're a resident of FL, do your paperwork there. |
| You can do a Florida trust using your Florida address and just name someone in Florida as a trustee to go and pick it up (maybe a parent, sibling, good friend ect). Then just do a 5320.20 to your address in NC. Once it is approved they can ship you the item. No need for a 5320.20 for a suppressor. |
|
I was stationed in Hawaii (I'm USN) and purchased an SBR and a suppressor. I had them sent to a dealer in CO (my state of residence) and did all the paperwork through the mail. I sent the forms off to the ATF and then went on deployment for 6 months. When the forms came back approved my dealer e-mailed me letting me know they were in. When I finished deployment I went home on leave and picked my goodies up.
Just call and talk with dealers in your area. Explain your situation and find one that will work with you. |
| Thanks for the info guys. That's gonna work out really well then. My wife is still living in FL finishing her degree, so I can just name her as the trustee. One more question though. If I want to f1 a current rifle to sbr it, would I have to ship the rifle to her and then ship it back to me when the tax stamp comes in and the work/engraving is done? |
|
Quoted:
Thanks for the info guys. That's gonna work out really well then. My wife is still living in FL finishing her degree, so I can just name her as the trustee. One more question though. If I want to f1 a current rifle to sbr it, would I have to ship the rifle to her and then ship it back to me when the tax stamp comes in and the work/engraving is done? That's an interesting question. The lower isn't an SBR until built into an SBR configuration. The lower can be in your possession while you are waiting on the approval. The approved Form 1 will be sent to her, in FL. That still doesn't mean that the lower is an SBR, though. It won't be until the lower is mated to a <16" upper. But, you can't have it (in an SBR configuration) in your possession, outside the State of FL, until a Form 5320.20 is completed and approved. But, you can't technically complete a 5320.20 on a firearm which isn't built. So, it would seem that you could get the Form 1 approved while the lower is in your possession, but you couldn't submit a 5320.20 until your wife mates the lower to an SBR upper, meaning she'd have to have them in her possession. Of course, nobody from BATFE is going to swing by your wife's place to see if she has the lower in her possession before they approve the 5320.20. So, reallistically, you could submit the Form 1 and once it is approved and your wife receives it, immediately submit a 5320.20. Once she receives the 5320.20, she forwards it and the Form 1 to you and you build your SBR, with no BATFE employee being the wiser. You could even mail the 5320.20 from NC, just remember to put the correct addresses in the appropriate spaces. One more thing, if FL is your home-of-record, you might want to just submit your 5320.20 as a non-permanent change of address. That would allow you to carry it back and forth from NC to FL without having to worry about another 5320.20 this year. (5320.20's can be filed for non-permanent changes of address for an entire calendar year.) You would just have to remember to submit a new one each December for the following year. |
|
I've always just had mine done in whatever state I'm in. I've always had to submit a copy of my orders along with my DL to the LE office. Without the orders they won't touch it because they don't consider me a resident of that state. I've used a trust on a few as well, just got the trust done in the state I was stationed in. Made it nice to be able to send in the paperwork while I was deployed, by the time I got back home everything was approved. |
|
Quoted:
I've always just had mine done in whatever state I'm in. I've always had to submit a copy of my orders along with my DL to the LE office. Without the orders they won't touch it because they don't consider me a resident of that state. I've used a trust on a few as well, just got the trust done in the state I was stationed in. Made it nice to be able to send in the paperwork while I was deployed, by the time I got back home everything was approved. Unfortunately, however, NC has some rather stupid laws regarding NFA weapons. IIRC, in order to buy or build one, you have to have an FFL (C&R is fine, IIRC) and the weapon has to be for R&D purposes. It isn't an impossible law with which to comply, but it's just that many more hurdles and expenses to overcome, as well as that much more of a wait. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: I've always just had mine done in whatever state I'm in. I've always had to submit a copy of my orders along with my DL to the LE office. Without the orders they won't touch it because they don't consider me a resident of that state. I've used a trust on a few as well, just got the trust done in the state I was stationed in. Made it nice to be able to send in the paperwork while I was deployed, by the time I got back home everything was approved. Unfortunately, however, NC has some rather stupid laws regarding NFA weapons. IIRC, in order to buy or build one, you have to have an FFL (C&R is fine, IIRC) and the weapon has to be for R&D purposes. It isn't an impossible law with which to comply, but it's just that many more hurdles and expenses to overcome, as well as that much more of a wait. Don't live in NC, but Most of this nonsense goes away in a few months. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6949
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've always just had mine done in whatever state I'm in. I've always had to submit a copy of my orders along with my DL to the LE office. Without the orders they won't touch it because they don't consider me a resident of that state. I've used a trust on a few as well, just got the trust done in the state I was stationed in. Made it nice to be able to send in the paperwork while I was deployed, by the time I got back home everything was approved. Unfortunately, however, NC has some rather stupid laws regarding NFA weapons. IIRC, in order to buy or build one, you have to have an FFL (C&R is fine, IIRC) and the weapon has to be for R&D purposes. It isn't an impossible law with which to comply, but it's just that many more hurdles and expenses to overcome, as well as that much more of a wait. Don't live in NC, but Most of this nonsense goes away in a few months. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6949
It's about time they come out of the dark ages, in respect to Title II weapons. I have no doubt that NC's draconian NFA laws were simply meant to keep a certain group from owning them (Jim Crow, anyone?). |
Armory Sponsor