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Posted: 2/25/2011 4:33:14 AM EDT
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So yeah, I just found out I might have a serious road block in SBSin my shotgun.
I live in a really small town, who doesnt have its own police. We have a station, but we have "resident state troopers", and the CLEO is technically the First Selectman of the town. From what I have delt with him in the past, he can be a real prick. I discussed it with my cousin (who also lives in the same town) and he laughed when I told him I needed the signature, and he said "Good luck with that". So.... What other options do I have? I am thinking about writing a letter (a little more profesional then a call) and droping it off at his office, asking if he is willing to sign NFA Form 1's. Does anybody have any advice of how I should proceed? I have everything on hold right now because I do not know if I can get his blessing. |
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Damn. What town, man? Would it help if you explained to the first selectman that his signature only verifies that the item is not illegal in his jurisdiction? This is what I did in Norwich when the chief signed off on my SBR and suppressor. I told him that the feds will do a background check on me. Sometimes these guys don't really know what you're asking them to sign. |
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I would rather not do the trust route if I can help it. This will be my only Form 1 for a long time. I was thinking about chopping my 15-22, but it is already about 35" OAL and it feels right where it is, so I dont wanna chop it anymore then it is.
I would rather not say my town over a public post like this |
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Where I live, now, the Chief of Police has a serious hard on for the ATF and refuses to have anything to do with them (including NFA sign-offs). I asked and he said he had no problem with the ownership of such but that he didn't want his name on ANY ATF document. He advised me to go to the Sheriff's Dept. and that they would sign my paperwork without a problem. I knew the Sheriff's Dept. would sign I just was going to save myself a 10 min trip was all.
Have you even asked the guy? I would merely state that you are lawfully filing the paperwork to create an SBS and to do so requires a CLEO signature. Emphasize that his signature merely states that posession would not place you in violation of state or local law. If he turns up to be the prick you think he is .. then its not the end of the world. Sheriff's Dept., judge with the authority to hear felony cases, DA, head of the state police, and many many more people are also acceptable CLEO's as far as the ATF is concerned. Start there and if you run into more road blocks .. contact the ATF and they are supposed to give you more alternatives (people who are acceptable CLEO's) so that you can proceed with the paperwork. |
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Where I live, now, the Chief of Police has a serious hard on for the ATF and refuses to have anything to do with them (including NFA sign-offs). I asked and he said he had no problem with the ownership of such but that he didn't want his name on ANY ATF document. He advised me to go to the Sheriff's Dept. and that they would sign my paperwork without a problem. I knew the Sheriff's Dept. would sign I just was going to save myself a 10 min trip was all. Have you even asked the guy? I would merely state that you are lawfully filing the paperwork to create an SBS and to do so requires a CLEO signature. Emphasize that his signature merely states that posession would not place you in violation of state or local law. If he turns up to be the prick you think he is .. then its not the end of the world. Sheriff's Dept., judge with the authority to hear felony cases, DA, head of the state police, and many many more people are also acceptable CLEO's as far as the ATF is concerned. Start there and if you run into more road blocks .. contact the ATF and they are supposed to give you more alternatives (people who are acceptable CLEO's) so that you can proceed with the paperwork. Thank you for the info. I am going to ask him before I even fill out the paper work and all. I knew there was other people I could get to sign it, but I didnt know who. Thank you for providing me with that information. For all I know, I'm just getting worried for nothing. |
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Where I live, now, the Chief of Police has a serious hard on for the ATF and refuses to have anything to do with them (including NFA sign-offs). I asked and he said he had no problem with the ownership of such but that he didn't want his name on ANY ATF document. He advised me to go to the Sheriff's Dept. and that they would sign my paperwork without a problem. I knew the Sheriff's Dept. would sign I just was going to save myself a 10 min trip was all. Have you even asked the guy? I would merely state that you are lawfully filing the paperwork to create an SBS and to do so requires a CLEO signature. Emphasize that his signature merely states that posession would not place you in violation of state or local law. If he turns up to be the prick you think he is .. then its not the end of the world. Sheriff's Dept., judge with the authority to hear felony cases, DA, head of the state police, and many many more people are also acceptable CLEO's as far as the ATF is concerned. Start there and if you run into more road blocks .. contact the ATF and they are supposed to give you more alternatives (people who are acceptable CLEO's) so that you can proceed with the paperwork. Thank you for the info. I am going to ask him before I even fill out the paper work and all. I knew there was other people I could get to sign it, but I didnt know who. Thank you for providing me with that information. For all I know, I'm just getting worried for nothing. I think the bold red statement sums it up rather nicely!  
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For a long time, guys who lived in little towns with no organized PD would go to the CSP Troop commander that covered your area and there would be no problem. Recently NFA Branch decided that those signatures weren't valid any more and I have heard that a signature from a first selectman was also rejected by them.
I honestly don't know where that leaves you right now. |
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I'm in CT and just went through this in Nov/Dec. The First Selectman is not a viable option, and now according to ATF neither is the LT in charge of the local barracks, unless he has specific permission to sign for Deputy Commissioner of State Police. Your best bet is to go the Trust route, that's what I wound up having to do. |
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