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Posted: 5/13/2010 9:17:23 AM EDT
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We here in Alabama just got our SBR law passed!!!!
I'm a little confused so maybe some of you experienced guys can help me sort this out. I'm thinking about doing a 9mm AR SBR build. What exactly gets SBR'd Just the lower? Can I switch calibers later on? What the engraving I read about. Is there a thread that covers SBRs? Thanks Vic |
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Do some searches through the NFA/Class III forum:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=22 |
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The lower has to be engraved and there are forms to fill out. Check out the link-there's a lot of useful folks who can better help you out. -32 |
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Here is a link to the FORM-1 PDF
LINK In box 4-c list all of the calibers that you could build an AR15 to shoot. Or, In box 4-c list the caliber that you will use for the original configuration… And then in box 4-h list the additional calibers…. I have done it both ways and both were approved. |
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Thanks.. What did you all put in 4i " state why you intend to make this firearm" I don't think " because I can" or " because they are cool" are good answers... "All Lawful purposes" tends to be the most used and accepted reason. Don't forget you can not submit form 1's or Form 4's until 1 July 2010 for SBS or SBR in AL. So if you are going the CLEO route, you need to make sure they do not sign it until 1 July 2010. |
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The lower receiver is the part that is controlled by law and actually considered a firearm. It is the thing that must be registered and engraved. "Investment" or "collection" is low-key and usually works well. When I submitted mine years ago, "multi" caliber worked as did barrel length (under 16"). They are NOT accepting that anymore. You need to specify an exact length and caliber. That doesn't mean you can't change things around - barrel length, caliber, etc - the lower is registered, so if you want to run a different upper on it or something, you can still do so. You're not making any permanent modifications to the gun.
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Here is a link to the FORM-1 PDF LINK In box 4-c list all of the calibers that you could build an AR15 to shoot. Or, In box 4-c list the caliber that you will use for the original configuration… And then in box 4-h list the additional calibers…. I have done it both ways and both were approved. Don't do this. The ATF has been kicking forms back for listing multiple calibers. There is no need to put down additional calibers. You are free to switch calibers and barrel lengths at will after you get an approved form back. If you no longer possess the barrel length or caliber that is approved on your Form 1, the ATF requests that you notify them in writing of the permanent change so that they can update the registry, but it is not required by law. Think of SBR'ing a rifle the same as building one from scratch. You are getting approved to build 1 rifle, not 6. You can only initially build this rifle with one caliber and one length of barrel, which gives you one overall length. You may change that configuration to your heart's content later on (temporarily or permanently) but you are getting approval for your INITIAL build. If the serial # on your form matches your weapon, the ATF does not care what barrel length or caliber you have on it at the time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Here is a link to the FORM-1 PDF LINK In box 4-c list all of the calibers that you could build an AR15 to shoot. Or, In box 4-c list the caliber that you will use for the original configuration… And then in box 4-h list the additional calibers…. I have done it both ways and both were approved. Don't do this. The ATF has been kicking forms back for listing multiple calibers. There is no need to put down additional calibers. You are free to switch calibers and barrel lengths at will after you get an approved form back. If you no longer possess the barrel length or caliber that is approved on your Form 1, the ATF requests that you notify them in writing of the permanent change so that they can update the registry, but it is not required by law. Think of SBR'ing a rifle the same as building one from scratch. You are getting approved to build 1 rifle, not 6. You can only initially build this rifle with one caliber and one length of barrel, which gives you one overall length. You may change that configuration to your heart's content later on (temporarily or permanently) but you are getting approval for your INITIAL build. If the serial # on your form matches your weapon, the ATF does not care what barrel length or caliber you have on it at the time. So, even though I own multiple AR-15's, as long as I have one lower registered as a SBR I can have multiple short barreled uppers? (As long as they are not on an unregistered lower) No 'constructive intent' issues? Thanks. ETA: Looks like this questiion gets asked quite often in this forum. Disregard. |
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The lower receiver is the part that is controlled by law and actually considered a firearm. It is the thing that must be registered and engraved. "Investment" or "collection" is low-key and usually works well. When I submitted mine years ago, "multi" caliber worked as did barrel length (under 16"). They are NOT accepting that anymore. You need to specify an exact length and caliber. That doesn't mean you can't change things around - barrel length, caliber, etc - the lower is registered, so if you want to run a different upper on it or something, you can still do so. You're not making any permanent modifications to the gun. this is correct, but you will still need to keep your original upper just in case mr. atf stops by.  you do need to be able to show your original configuration on form.
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