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Posted: 1/23/2010 1:07:44 PM EDT
| You are registering the lower receiver, correct? In that case, can you have multiple SBR uppers for it with only one tax stamp? |
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Hmmmmm...maybe. My Form 1 specifically states the barrel length for mine at 11.5". So, in essence when dealing with the ATF, I could have multiple uppers, but only with 11.5" barrels if I'm interpreting my Form 1 correctly. I figure that's EXACTLY how the ATF looks at it.
Some guys around here have Form 1's with barrel "ranges" of between "X" and "Y" lengths, I don't know how they got that approved 'cause the local ATF boys said I needed a specific bbl length...no barrel length "ranges". But, that's the ATF. They make the rules on the fly. |
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You are registering the lower receiver, correct? In that case, can you have multiple SBR uppers for it with only one tax stamp? Yes, for the AR-15 type rifle you are registering the lower receiver. And Yes, you can have multiple uppers (with any barrel length) for it with only one tax stamp. Just be careful how many and which uppers you have. The best practice is to have one Title2 lower for each less than 16" upper you have. For example: One Title2 Lower, One Title1 Lower, one 16" upper, and one 10.5" upper == ok because you have a legal way to assemble all of them. One Title2 Lower, One Title1 lower, one 16" upper, one 10.5" upper, and one 11" upper == NOT ok because you can assemble two SBRs from this set, and only one of them is registered. Two Title2 Lowers, One Title1 lower, one 16" upper, one 10.5" upper, and one 11" upper == ok because you have a legal way to assemble all of them. Quoted:
Hmmmmm...maybe. My Form 1 specifically states the barrel length for mine at 11.5". So, in essence when dealing with the ATF, I could have multiple uppers, but only with 11.5" barrels if I'm interpreting my Form 1 correctly. I figure that's EXACTLY how the ATF looks at it. Not quite, you can use any length barrels you want. A Form 1 is an application to manufacture an NFA weapon. On it, youre submitting the original configuration. After that, you're free to change it in any way you like with any permanent changes being sent to the ATF in writing. |
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Hmmmmm...maybe. My Form 1 specifically states the barrel length for mine at 11.5". So, in essence when dealing with the ATF, I could have multiple uppers, but only with 11.5" barrels if I'm interpreting my Form 1 correctly. I figure that's EXACTLY how the ATF looks at it. Some guys around here have Form 1's with barrel "ranges" of between "X" and "Y" lengths, I don't know how they got that approved 'cause the local ATF boys said I needed a specific bbl length...no barrel length "ranges". But, that's the ATF. They make the rules on the fly. ATF "requests" you "inform them" if you permanently change the configuration. But you CAN have as many different length uppers as you want. And if you do permanently change that configuration by selling off the upper you originally built the SBR with, and you decide to send a letter to the ATF telling them about it, you probably won't even get a reply. Once the lower is registered as an SBR, it can have ANY barrel length on it. |
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 Whoa...put away the sword. I was just offering my opinion on the subject according to the ATF dude I had talked to in the New Hampshire office. Point of clarification is in order here, the "gentle" ATF agent made certain I understood he was in "enforcement". He was a nasty bastard, period, spoke to me like I was a child molesting leaper. Now, the law be damned when you are dealing with BATF in all things Class III firearms. While I stand corrected, buyer beware when you deal with these guys. Bear in mind they make the rules, and modify them as they see fit. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. |
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. Some guys around here have Form 1's with barrel "ranges" of between "X" and "Y" lengths, I don't know how they got that approved 'cause the local ATF boys said I needed a specific bbl length...no barrel length "ranges". But, that's the ATF. They make the rules on the fly. Ummmm,, ATF 5320.1 not change in the past 22yr that I know of.... the form has always been an application to build (1) serial numbered firearm. Fill in section 4 with (1) answer per box, and move on. After the firearm is approved to sport a shorter than 16" barrel, then you may sport all the less than or longer than 16" barrel on your registered short barrel rifle serial number. |
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Hmmmmm...maybe. My Form 1 specifically states the barrel length for mine at 11.5". So, in essence when dealing with the ATF, I could have multiple uppers, but only with 11.5" barrels if I'm interpreting my Form 1 correctly. I figure that's EXACTLY how the ATF looks at it. Quoted:
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Whoa...put away the sword. I was just offering my opinion on the subject Please don't give people legal advice based on "opinion." |
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AK_...I believe I was erroniously speaking to the Form 4 (registering), not the Form 1 (manufacturing). My bad, a difference in nomenclature.
Question, tho, regarding your swipe at my "opinion"...isn't it opinion which sometimes interprets law in Supreme Court cases? Don't they call those opinions when they make a ruling? Apoligies OP, not to hijack, just askin'
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