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Posted: 11/2/2009 3:58:20 AM EDT
| Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... |
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typically if your state allows NFA items (machine guns, AOW, SBR, SBS) yes the NFA classificaton will override the AWB if that applies to your state. However, you need to find out what your state law allows for NFA and if its good to go, you dont need to worry about the AWB as long as you have aquired the nessesary permits, or whatever you state requires you to have for the NFA item your trying to get.
In MA we have an state specific AWB also but they allow machine guns for NFA items too with a special licence so if we have the licese we are good to go. Rob |
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Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... I have heard yes and no!!! I was thinking about writing a letter to get confirmatioin cause a SBR tax stamp is cheaper than a pre-ban!! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... SBR are not exemptd from our state AWB. If you n the banned feaatures, you will need to go with a prebn rifle. I thought preban didn't work in CT any more.....because you had to grand father them in by a certain date....and that long expired..... |
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Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... SBR are not exemptd from our state AWB. If you n the banned feaatures, you will need to go with a prebn rifle. I thought preban didn't work in CT any more.....because you had to grand father them in by a certain date....and that long expired..... firearms manufactured prior to 94, and not named on the state ban list are good-to-go. they come from out of state since registered CT "assault weapons" are not transferable, and any gun named or configured as an "assault weapon" would have had to be registered to stay legal in the state... there is a lot of good info to be found in the hometown forum. |
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Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... SBR are not exemptd from our state AWB. If you n the banned feaatures, you will need to go with a prebn rifle. I thought preban didn't work in CT any more.....because you had to grand father them in by a certain date....and that long expired..... Guns that are banned by name can no longer be registered (ie. Colt AR-15, H&K 91, AK-47 type). The feature ban has the same 13SEP1994 cutoff that the old federal ban had. Also, if you deal with a post-ban SBR in CT, remember that if the barrel is under 12" long, you should also consider the assault pistol criteria in addition to the assault rifle criteria. Our state has that unique definition of a pistol- which is any firearm with a barrel under 12". It is possible for a firearm to be a rifle an pistol concurrently, since a rifle is (effectively) any firearm with a rifled barrel and a buttstock. |
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Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... SBR are not exemptd from our state AWB. If you n the banned feaatures, you will need to go with a prebn rifle. I thought preban didn't work in CT any more.....because you had to grand father them in by a certain date....and that long expired..... Guns that are banned by name can no longer be registered (ie. Colt AR-15, H&K 91, AK-47 type). The feature ban has the same 13SEP1994 cutoff that the old federal ban had. Also, if you deal with a post-ban SBR in CT, remember that if the barrel is under 12" long, you should also consider the assault pistol criteria in addition to the assault rifle criteria. Our state has that unique definition of a pistol- which is any firearm with a barrel under 12". It is possible for a firearm to be a rifle an pistol concurrently, since a rifle is (effectively) any firearm with a rifled barrel and a buttstock. What are the limitations of the assault pistol. I am interested in a 9mm ar-15 w a 10 inch(or shorter) barrel and live in ct. Is it just that a vertical forgrip is prohibited? Thanks |
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Does a NFA weapon such as a SBR supersede a state AWB.....in other words can I have a collapsable or folding stock on a SBR in CT..... SBR are not exemptd from our state AWB. If you n the banned feaatures, you will need to go with a prebn rifle. I thought preban didn't work in CT any more.....because you had to grand father them in by a certain date....and that long expired..... Guns that are banned by name can no longer be registered (ie. Colt AR-15, H&K 91, AK-47 type). The feature ban has the same 13SEP1994 cutoff that the old federal ban had. Also, if you deal with a post-ban SBR in CT, remember that if the barrel is under 12" long, you should also consider the assault pistol criteria in addition to the assault rifle criteria. Our state has that unique definition of a pistol- which is any firearm with a barrel under 12". It is possible for a firearm to be a rifle an pistol concurrently, since a rifle is (effectively) any firearm with a rifled barrel and a buttstock. What are the limitations of the assault pistol. I am interested in a 9mm ar-15 w a 10 inch(or shorter) barrel and live in ct. Is it just that a vertical forgrip is prohibited? Thanks Remember, you would be governed by both the assault rifle and assault pistol criteria 
Here is the assault pistol criteria: ( am highlighting the features you would have) B) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:
(i) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer; (iii) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; (iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and (v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; or |
| If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. Doesn't have to be a complete rifle from the factory. It could have been a stripped lower that was never assembled to this day and would still be a valid preban as long as it was manufactured prior to 9.13.94. |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. For state law purposes, it would be a pistol (even with a butt) if the barrel is under 12". The presence or absence of a stock makes no difference under the state definition of a pistol. Good advice |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. For state law purposes, it would be a pistol (even with a butt) if the barrel is under 12". The presence or absence of a stock makes no difference under the state definition of a pistol. Good advice If the assault pistol law applied to SBRs then i could put a rear stock on a glock and just say its a pistol (which its not) have it still be legal. Pistol is a pistol and rifle is rifle. Put a vertical grip on the front of your pistol and now it has to be reged as an aow. Im not tryin to split hairs with ya here but if you have a rifle you do not fall into the defif of an assault pistol, not matter how short your barrel is. If it made a difference then you would need a CT pistol permit in order to get a short barreled rifle (which you dont). |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. For state law purposes, it would be a pistol (even with a butt) if the barrel is under 12". The presence or absence of a stock makes no difference under the state definition of a pistol. Good advice If the assault pistol law applied to SBRs then i could put a rear stock on a glock and just say its a pistol (which its not) have it still be legal. Pistol is a pistol and rifle is rifle. Put a vertical grip on the front of your pistol and now it has to be reged as an aow. Im not tryin to split hairs with ya here but if you have a rifle you do not fall into the defif of an assault pistol, not matter how short your barrel is. If it made a difference then you would need a CT pistol permit in order to get a short barreled rifle (which you dont). Are you sure about that? Because I know some FFL/SOTs that feel differently. This topic is being discussed in the New England HTF currently. Considering it is state specific I would suggest discussing it over there. |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. For state law purposes, it would be a pistol (even with a butt) if the barrel is under 12". The presence or absence of a stock makes no difference under the state definition of a pistol. Good advice If the assault pistol law applied to SBRs then i could put a rear stock on a glock and just say its a pistol (which its not) have it still be legal. Pistol is a pistol and rifle is rifle. Put a vertical grip on the front of your pistol and now it has to be reged as an aow. Im not tryin to split hairs with ya here but if you have a rifle you do not fall into the defif of an assault pistol, not matter how short your barrel is. If it made a difference then you would need a CT pistol permit in order to get a short barreled rifle (which you dont). Are you sure about that? Because I know some FFL/SOTs that feel differently. This topic is being discussed in the New England HTF currently. Considering it is state specific I would suggest discussing it over there. I SBRed my first AR two months after turning 21. I didnt get a pistol permit till seveal months later. The first time I got stopped with it I still didnt have a CT pisto permit all the officers wanted to see was my signed ATF paperwork. If I want to sell it al the buyer needs to do is get the correct form approved from the ATF and he can take possesion of it, without ever showing me a pistol permit because it is a rifle and all rifles and shotguns in the state of CT do not require a permit. Ill head over to the New England Forum. |
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If it has a rear stock its not a pistol and the pistol law does not apply it is strickly a short barreled rifle (hence the 200 dollar stamp). You could put a one inch barrel on the front of it and it is still a rifle. Get a preban lower as long as its not a Colt and make sure it came from the factory as a complete rifle and you are good to go. Plenty of shops in CT have prebans you shouldnt have any problem finding one. Just my two cents take it for what its worth. For state law purposes, it would be a pistol (even with a butt) if the barrel is under 12". The presence or absence of a stock makes no difference under the state definition of a pistol. Good advice If the assault pistol law applied to SBRs then i could put a rear stock on a glock and just say its a pistol (which its not) have it still be legal. Pistol is a pistol and rifle is rifle. Put a vertical grip on the front of your pistol and now it has to be reged as an aow. Im not tryin to split hairs with ya here but if you have a rifle you do not fall into the defif of an assault pistol, not matter how short your barrel is. If it made a difference then you would need a CT pistol permit in order to get a short barreled rifle (which you dont). Are you sure about that? Because I know some FFL/SOTs that feel differently. This topic is being discussed in the New England HTF currently. Considering it is state specific I would suggest discussing it over there. I SBRed my first AR two months after turning 21. I didnt get a pistol permit till seveal months later. The first time I got stopped with it I still didnt have a CT pisto permit all the officers wanted to see was my signed ATF paperwork. If I want to sell it al the buyer needs to do is get the correct form approved from the ATF and he can take possesion of it, without ever showing me a pistol permit because it is a rifle and all rifles and shotguns in the state of CT do not require a permit. Ill head over to the New England Forum. As long as the barrel is 12"+, the buyer would not need a CT permit. |
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