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Posted: 10/17/2009 9:27:42 PM EDT
| [span style='font-size: 18pt;']Now I am curious about putting a stock on my glock pistol. I already have a sbr ar so I know the process. but my question is can I register the stock as the nfa part so it can be used between several pistols? Kinda like the drop in sears which the sear is registered part, not the firearm. [/span] |
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Then how can a sear be registered? Because when Congress passed FOPA '86, they added "conversion devices" to the legal definition of a machine gun. Under the law, a sear is legally a firearm in and of itself. But those are the only "parts" which are also defined as firearms, so no other "parts" can be registered. |
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Then how can a sear be registered? Because when Congress passed FOPA '86, they added "conversion devices" to the legal definition of a machine gun. Under the law, a sear is legally a firearm in and of itself. But those are the only "parts" which are also defined as firearms, so no other "parts" can be registered. Just to add to this, isn't a suppressor defined as a firearm as well? Maybe DD's too? This is the way I always thought it was. Anyways, the point is that only those things are considered firearms, a stock is not. |
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Suppressors and mg conversion devices are firearms under Title 2 of the GCA, but not under Title 1 (since they don't expel a projectile, and are not frames or receivers of firearms).
DD's which expel a projectile are firearms under both Title 1 and Title 2. explosive DD's are only firearms under Title 2 - but are governed by other, harsher restrictions dealing with explosives. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Then how can a sear be registered? Because when Congress passed FOPA '86, they added "conversion devices" to the legal definition of a machine gun. Under the law, a sear is legally a firearm in and of itself. But those are the only "parts" which are also defined as firearms, so no other "parts" can be registered. Sears were registerable long before FOPA86. DIAS as early as November 1981. And not all sears - only conversion sears. a Standard M16 sear is not registerable. |
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Then how can a sear be registered? Because when Congress passed FOPA '86, they added "conversion devices" to the legal definition of a machine gun. Under the law, a sear is legally a firearm in and of itself. But those are the only "parts" which are also defined as firearms, so no other "parts" can be registered. Sears were registerable long before FOPA86. DIAS as early as November 1981. And not all sears - only conversion sears. a Standard M16 sear is not registerable. ATF, under administrative law, allowed registration of machine gun conversion devices prior to 1986; with FOPA, Congress codified that decision into Congressional law. The OP was asking about registering a stock as an SBR. ATF has never allowed this under administrative law, and Congress has never codified it, thus there is no legal basis allowing you to do so. |
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Wow some very good info. I was just always curious If your goal is to have one SBR glock and multi calibers it can be done. For example. Going from .40 or .357 to 9mm requires a conversion barrel specifically designed to allow the extractor to work properly. You can't go from 9mm to .40 or .357 because the rims are larger, unless you go somewhere like Wolf and get a new top-end. Glocks have five basic frame sizes (I don't know how the .45 GAP pistols work into this). Large frame is for 10mm (G20) and .45 (G21). You can switch between the two calibers with one frame by swapping out the entire top-end (slide and barrel assembly). Standard frames are for 9mm (G17, 34, and 17L), .40 (G22, 35, and 24), and .357 (G31). You can swap out top ends, magazines, and/or barrels to switch one frame between all of these models, although certain conversions also require a new ejector. For example, you can convert a Glock 22 to a Glock 17 with either a new top-end, magazines, and a 9mm ejector, or just the conversion barrel, mags, and ejector. Compact frames are for the 9mm G19, .40 G23, and .357 G31. However, they are not compatible with the compact frames for the G29 10mm or the G30 .45. They are similar in size but not the same. The same rules apply for conversions. Sub-Compact frames are for the 9mm G26, .40 G27, and .357 G33. The same rules apply for conversions. On top of that, barrels can be used from larger pistols in their smaller counterparts, as can magazines, so you can put a 4.5" barrel from a Glock 17 into a Glock 19 without a problem, it will just stick out 0.5" from the muzzle. You can also stick a Glock 17 magazine into a Glock 19, but it will not fit flush with the frame. Furthermore, you can convert a 10mm pistol to .40 with a barrel specifically designed for this, but you can't go the other way without major surgery as the 10mm cartridge is generally too long for 9mm/.40 frames. I've seen it done with a H&K USP, but it wasn't cheap. If you don't own several Glocks, Lone Wolf Distributing offers all the parts you need. 9mm, 40, and 357 would be one set. 45, 10mm and 40 another. I think a Hera kit with a 45 and 10mm set up would be a kick in the pants. ETA: I almost forgot a .22 conversion is available with modles that fit almost every Glock from 9mm to 45. |
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