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Posted: 3/30/2007 5:45:53 PM EDT
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I'm a little confused. I have a built LMT lower that I just picked up. It has never been made into a complete firearm. I purchased just the built lower. I was under the impression that I only needed to use Form 1 to apply for SBR. My local dealer told me today that I needed to send in Form 1 AND Form 4. I thought Form 4 was for transfer of an existing NFA weapon...correct? Am I wrong in thinking I only need to send in Form 1 if I'm wanting to build an SBR from my LMT lower??? Chris |
| the post above is correct. All you need is the Form 1. If you are in NC, make sure you use "Research and Development" for your reason. It is the only reason that is being approved. Dont forget to engrave your lower with your name/city/state since you are the manufacturer of the SBR. |
Research and development? Uh oh, I put "Collection and Investment." Will this not work? |
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there are two code sections in NC that regulate SBR's, suppressors, and MG's. These items are considered "weapons of mass death and destruction". The relevant code is quoted below: § 14‑288.8. Manufacture, assembly, possession, storage, transportation, sale, purchase, delivery, or acquisition of weapon of mass death and destruction; exceptions. (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to manufacture, assemble, possess, store, transport, sell, offer to sell, purchase, offer to purchase, deliver or give to another, or acquire any weapon of mass death and destruction. (b) This section does not apply to: (1) Persons exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269 with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties. (2) Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms, ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the laws of the United States or the State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under their licenses. (3) Persons under contract with the United States, the State of North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their contracts. (4) Inventors, designers, ordnance consultants and researchers, chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in pursuits designed to enlarge knowledge or to facilitate the creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent with the laws of the United States and the State of North Carolina. (c) The term "weapon of mass death and destruction" includes: (1) Any explosive or incendiary: a. Bomb; or b. Grenade; or c. Rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces; or d. Missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one‑quarter ounce; or e. Mine; or f. Device similar to any of the devices described above; or (2) Any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell of a type particularly suitable for sporting purposes) which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, and which has any barrel with a bore of more than one‑half inch in diameter; or (3) Any firearm capable of fully automatic fire, any shotgun with a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length or an overall length of less than 26 inches, any rifle with a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length or an overall length of less than 26 inches, any muffler or silencer for any firearm, whether or not such firearm is included within this definition. For the purposes of this section, rifle is defined as a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder; or (4) Any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device into any weapon described above and from which a weapon of mass death and destruction may readily be assembled. The term "weapon of mass death and destruction" does not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line‑throwing, safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given by the Secretary of the Army pursuant to the provisions of section 4684(2), 4685, or 4686 of Title 10 of the United States Code; or any other device which the Secretary of the Treasury finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, is an antique, or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes, in accordance with Chapter 44 of Title 18 of the United States Code. (d) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a Class F felony. (1969, c. 869, s. 1; 1975, c. 718, ss. 6, 7; 1977, c. 810; 1983, c. 413, ss. 1, 2; 1993, c. 539, s. 1228; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c); 2001‑470, s. 3.) |
Wouldn't a C&R FFL be the way to go in North Carolina? |
this used to work, but not anymore. the law didnt change, only the Governor's interpretation of the law. 
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I use a trust, so I just reprint the forms if I have a mistake. I think you can just cross out whatever reason you put, and put R&D though, then send the form back. It only takes a bit over a week after you send the corrected forms back to have your approved stamp in hand. |
cert. of compliance? Please excuse my ignorance, but what form is this? I'm preparing my first form 1 to send off & the onlyforms I have are the form 1 & fingerprint cards (x2). |
Here you go... titleii.com/pdf/5330-20.pdf |
That's an older form. If you go to titleii.com/Forms.htm it links to www.atf.treas.gov/forms/pdfs/f533020.pdf. |
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ty, but one follow up question: Does this form need to be signed by someone else besides me, or do I put my own name in both boxes 1 & 2 (name under which the application was filed & name of person certifyng to citizenship); ex. do I certify my own citizenship (or is that for the cleo to fill out?) thx |
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