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2/21/2015 9:19:52 AM EDT
I am sitting on a Mitchell's k98 (nazi marked) that I am not really that into, only issue is a missing front sight hood. How much are these worth? I know the Mitchell's don't have as much historical value but even they're sold out now.
2/21/2015 9:27:37 AM EDT
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Same as any other refinished or sporterized K98k:  a couple hundred bucks.  It no longer has collector's value, and is worth less than even a RC K98k, IMO.  But someone might want it as a range toy, a deer rifle, or simply a pretty wall hanger.
2/21/2015 10:21:15 AM EDT
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200-300 (300 MAX) unless you get a person who doesn't care and likes a purdy gun that Mitchell has ravenaged and if the bore is nice.
2/21/2015 10:36:26 AM EDT
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200-300 (300 MAX) unless you get a person who doesn't care and likes a purdy gun that Mitchell has ravenaged and if the bore is nice.
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Worth less than a yugo Mauser? Wasn't expecting that.
2/21/2015 11:08:53 AM EDT
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The only way you'll pull any money from it would be to sell it to someone who doesn't know what Mitchell's does, but to any collector, it is just pure plain up shooter, no collector value, so yes, I'd say 200-300, and honestly i don't know if I'd pay that.
2/21/2015 11:17:43 AM EDT
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The only way you'll pull any money from it would be to sell it to someone who doesn't know what Mitchell's does, but to any collector, it is just pure plain up shooter, no collector value, so yes, I'd say 200-300, and honestly i don't know if I'd pay that.
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The only way you'll pull any money from it would be to sell it to someone who doesn't know what Mitchell's does, but to any collector, it is just pure plain up shooter, no collector value, so yes, I'd say 200-300, and honestly i don't know if I'd pay that.



+1, a RC 98k is up for sale on another forum - untouched since russia for 400 shipped. From a collectors stand point - or one who wants a more original rifle / not altered by civilians- Which one would you rather have?


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200-300 (300 MAX) unless you get a person who doesn't care and likes a purdy gun that Mitchell has ravenaged and if the bore is nice.

Worth less than a yugo Mauser? Wasn't expecting that.



Yep, the reason is a simple one : the 98k is molested and permanently altered by the Mitchell mauser company, the other is in untouched state since it last was used by the country who manufactured it and issued it.

2/21/2015 2:27:39 PM EDT
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I was in the market for a k98 recently. I had a guy with two rifles with sequential serial numbers. Completely checked out, turns out they were from his great grandfather or some shit who "acquired" them. I turned them both down for 400 each.

As a buyer, with Mitchell's in the market, I wouldn't pay any more than 200 for one.
2/21/2015 3:56:07 PM EDT
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What Mitchell's does borders on fraud.  Good luck selling it.
2/21/2015 4:07:27 PM EDT
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How so? Not saying I support them in particular, I'd just like to know how you came to that conclusion.
2/21/2015 4:29:23 PM EDT
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What Mitchell's does borders on fraud.  .
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100% agree.

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What Mitchell's does borders on fraud.  Good luck selling it.


How so? Not saying I support them in particular, I'd just like to know how you came to that conclusion.



2/21/2015 4:48:59 PM EDT
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I'd be okay buying one for $200-250 to have for load testing and ammo comparisons.



But yeah, no historical or originality value left once Mitchell's gets their hands on something.
2/21/2015 5:15:06 PM EDT
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What Mitchell's does borders on fraud.  .


100% agree.

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What Mitchell's does borders on fraud.  Good luck selling it.


How so? Not saying I support them in particular, I'd just like to know how you came to that conclusion.



http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq321/bluebayou_2008/mitchellad2006.jpg


Alright but how is fraud? Am I missing something? They are selling unissued, or at least very clean Mausers. I'm not seeing the fraud?
2/21/2015 5:47:39 PM EDT
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Well, M48s (the rifles being advertised on the left of that ad posted) are not K98ks.  They were not made on German machinery.  They were produced after WW2 by the Yugoslavians on Yugoslavian machinery.  They have no connection to German K98ks other than that they are both Mauser 98 actions, and that the M48s have somewhat of a resemblance to a K98k.

In addition to their creative advertising, Mitchells produces outright fakes by scrubbing and restamping serial numbers to match, and altering or adding markings to try to pass some K98ks off as more collectible variations.  Besides that, they strip and refinish the metal and wood on K98ks, in an attempt to pretty them up and then try to sell them as "near new".

It doesn't "border on fraud".  It's fraud, period.  They're frauds for using deliberately misleading information in their advertising, and even bigger frauds for altering and refinishing rifles and then not disclosing that to customers.
2/21/2015 5:49:08 PM EDT
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Well, M48s (the rifles being advertised on the left of that ad posted) are not German Mausers.  They were not made on German machinery.  They were produced after WW2 by the Yugoslavians, with no connection to German K98ks other than that they are Mauser, and they have somewhat of a resemblance to a K98k.

In addition to their creative advertising, Mitchells produces outright fakes by scrubbing and restamping serial numbers to match, and altering or adding markings.

Besides that, they strip and refinish their rifles, in an attempt to pretty them up and try to sell them as "unissued" or "like new".
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Gotcha, that's all I needed to know.
2/22/2015 11:00:44 AM EDT
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Well, M48s (the rifles being advertised on the left of that ad posted) are not K98ks.  They were not made on German machinery.  They were produced after WW2 by the Yugoslavians on Yugoslavian machinery.  They have no connection to German K98ks other than that they are both Mauser 98 actions, and that the M48s have somewhat of a resemblance to a K98k.

In addition to their creative advertising, Mitchells produces outright fakes by scrubbing and restamping serial numbers to match, and altering or adding markings to try to pass some K98ks off as more collectible variations.  Besides that, they strip and refinish the metal and wood on K98ks, in an attempt to pretty them up and then try to sell them as "near new".

It doesn't "border on fraud".  It's fraud, period.  They're frauds for using deliberately misleading information in their advertising, and even bigger frauds for altering and refinishing rifles and then not disclosing that to customers.
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?
2/22/2015 11:04:10 AM EDT
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Did you even look at the ads?
2/22/2015 11:24:38 AM EDT
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?


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2/22/2015 12:00:10 PM EDT
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?


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As shown in the ad, they claim that their rifles are "original German K98s with matching factory serial numbers in near new condition".  And they're not.  They're pimp-shined, restamped fakes.  If they were selling them as "refinished", "altered", or "non-original", that would be different.  But they're not.  They're deliberately misleading their customers.  That is fraudulent.

Yes, most K98k collectors can tell that a Mitchell's Mauser is clearly not original at a glance.  But their customer base is not the knowledgeable K98k collectors.  They're going after the uninformed buyers who just want a pretty Nazi Mauser, and they're screwing those customers.

And the sad thing is, when most Mitchell's Mausers customers discover they've been screwed, their response is to take it to their local gun show and foist it off on some other unsuspecting buyer to recoup their money, thus perpetuating the fraud.

If you're serious about selling it for a fair price, then $200-$300 is a fair price for what it is:  a fake, refinished, restamped, non-original rifle.
2/22/2015 12:09:45 PM EDT
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OP if i was you i would hold onto it and use it as a shooter.
2/26/2015 11:21:42 PM EDT
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How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?
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Well, M48s (the rifles being advertised on the left of that ad posted) are not K98ks.  They were not made on German machinery.  They were produced after WW2 by the Yugoslavians on Yugoslavian machinery.  They have no connection to German K98ks other than that they are both Mauser 98 actions, and that the M48s have somewhat of a resemblance to a K98k.

In addition to their creative advertising, Mitchells produces outright fakes by scrubbing and restamping serial numbers to match, and altering or adding markings to try to pass some K98ks off as more collectible variations.  Besides that, they strip and refinish the metal and wood on K98ks, in an attempt to pretty them up and then try to sell them as "near new".

It doesn't "border on fraud".  It's fraud, period.  They're frauds for using deliberately misleading information in their advertising, and even bigger frauds for altering and refinishing rifles and then not disclosing that to customers.


How is it fraud when the rifles are clearly not original? They polish the bolt, my bolt is silver, don't they do that to all their k98s?


Reading comprehension does wonders on this topic.
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