Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
Armory Sponsor
9/3/2014 11:33:15 AM EDT
A friend asked me to help ID a gun his Grandfather left to him & I figured this was the best place to ask.

So what does he have here?








9/3/2014 11:36:41 AM EDT
[#1]
looks to me to be a Type 38 Arisaka.

Japanese Infantry rifle from 1906 to 1945

6.5mm Arisaka

The grind marks on the upper receiver is where the Chrysanthemum was and when The Japanese surrendered the Mum was ground off cause that symbol represented ownership to the Emporer of japan and the japs did not want to hand over sacred items to the victorious Americans

9/3/2014 11:43:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote History
Quoted:
looks to me to be a Type 38 Arisaka.

Japanese Infantry rifle from 1906 to 1945

6.5mm Arisaka

The grind marks on the upper receiver is where the Chrysanthemum was and when The Japanese surrendered the Mum was ground off cause that symbol represented ownership to the Emporer of japan and the japs did not want to hand over sacred items to the victorious Americans

http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/mm4470.jpg
View Quote


That is a badass piece of history to own!
9/3/2014 11:44:46 AM EDT
[#3]
Definitely an Arisaka
Could be a type 99 in 7.7 jap
9/3/2014 11:48:29 AM EDT
[#4]

Quote History
Quoted:


Definitely an Arisaka

Could be a type 99 in 7.7 jap
View Quote




 
Yep. Not a 6.5 an mentioned earlier.
9/3/2014 12:07:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote History
Quoted:

  Yep. Not a 6.5 an mentioned earlier.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Definitely an Arisaka
Could be a type 99 in 7.7 jap

  Yep. Not a 6.5 an mentioned earlier.


Nope......it's an early Koshikawa Arsenal type 38.....6.5mm

pre-1933 as it doesn't have a "kana" before the serial number.....no front sight ears either....
9/3/2014 12:13:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Two holes, it's a Type 38 long rifle. Type 99s only have one hole in the top of the receiver. It's 6.5.
9/3/2014 1:53:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for the replys. This is why ARFCOM is great!

Based on eyeballing the bore, I'm going with 6.5mm. Speaking of which, the bore looks pretty good with only one small spot that "should" clean up. Where can he find ammo for this or should he not shoot it?
9/3/2014 1:55:53 PM EDT
[#8]

Quote History
Quoted:


Thanks for the replys. This is why ARFCOM is great!



Based on eyeballing the bore, I'm going with 6.5mm. Speaking of which, the bore looks pretty good with only one small spot that "should" clean up. Where can he find ammo for this or should he not shoot it?

View Quote




 
I finally lucked into 2 boxes at a gun show after looking for about 2 years.
9/3/2014 2:27:41 PM EDT
[#9]

Quote History
Quoted:


Thanks for the replys. This is why ARFCOM is great!



Based on eyeballing the bore, I'm going with 6.5mm. Speaking of which, the bore looks pretty good with only one small spot that "should" clean up. Where can he find ammo for this or should he not shoot it?

View Quote
Norma, Hornady and a few smaller companies produce loaded ammo for the 6.5 Jap. Prvi also produces brass for handloading.



The Type 38 has one of the strongest actions in the world, rivaling or surpassing the large ring 98 mauser. It should be fine to shoot and most type 38s are exceedingly accurate rifles with very light recoil.



 
9/3/2014 4:05:03 PM EDT
[#10]
I'd have a gunsmith check any old rifle with an unknown history. That said, the Arisaka actions are very strong. Unless you roll your own or find a closeout somewhere, ammo is not cheap. I paid $35.00 for a box of 20 6.5 Arisaka last weekend.
9/3/2014 5:28:04 PM EDT
[#11]
Gun is covered as above. For ammo, have fun!

I think Im up to 60-70 rounds after years of searching and finding a half box here, and there. Its become more fun to look for ammo than shoot the damn gun.

9/3/2014 9:07:35 PM EDT
[#12]
I find ammo at gun shows once in a while but its insanely expensive, be it 6.5 or 7.7.  I did manage to snag a box 7.7 at the Hillsville flea market for a fair price a few days ago though.  It seems like someone one produce that Jap ammo, I see the rifles in it seems like every pawn shop or LGS I go in
9/3/2014 11:03:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Interesting, there are a few gun stores around here that have several boxes in stock.
9/4/2014 12:16:29 AM EDT
[#14]
You know, "38 type" is stamped on the damn receiver ring.
The 3 horizontal lines, a little like "="? That's the number 3. The pair of slightly-curved diagonals that look like "/  \"? That's the number 8. Read top to bottom.

ETA: I spent a couple semesters studying Japanese in college. The 1-10 numbers take a little getting used to, but I can't seem to forget them either .
9/4/2014 10:56:39 AM EDT
[#15]
gun-deals.com listed some 6.5 jap new production a few weeks ago. Its out there.
7.7 had to go to gunbroker
When I took my type 99 to the gunsmith he looked at it for 2 seconds and said shoot it. The guy waiting for something basically nutted his pants over the gun and said I would have a tough time getting ammo. i laughed bc its took 4 months to find the ammo.
If things looks and feel tight and smooth should be good. But everyone says have a last ditch inspected.
9/4/2014 7:19:56 PM EDT
[#16]

Quote History
Quoted:


I'd have a gunsmith check any old rifle with an unknown history. That said, the Arisaka actions are very strong. Unless you roll your own or find a closeout somewhere, ammo is not cheap. I paid $35.00 for a box of 20 6.5 Arisaka last weekend.
View Quote
99.8% of gunsmiths wouldn't have a clue how to check one out. If it looks OK then its probably OK.

 



Your best bet is load your own ammo.... Cases can be made from 243/260 and .308...
Armory Sponsor