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2/7/2014 4:38:53 PM EDT
So a guy I work with cleans out houses as a side job. He was cleaning one out this past weekend and pulled a sea bag out of the crawl space. He opened the bag and pulled out a complete MP-41 minus a broken stock. Now, what are his options from here. I told him he needs to contact the ATF to find out if the serial number was registered in '68. I told him more than likely it will end up being turned in to be destroyed, sad to say. If the receiver was to be destroyed according to ATF standards could he keep it?
2/7/2014 4:43:59 PM EDT
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I would tell him to contact a lawyer that specializes in that before the atf. I would also take the receiver off and surrender that with a lawyer.
2/8/2014 3:01:03 PM EDT
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Remove every part from the receiver, as only that is the MG. Then see about contacting a lawyer, though rarely can they do anything but cost you money.



If it turns out it is not registered, it will either have to be surrendered or have the receiver destroyed via torch cutting (bandsaw cuts are not acceptable).
2/8/2014 3:26:01 PM EDT
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So a guy I work with cleans out houses as a side job. He was cleaning one out this past weekend and pulled a sea bag out of the crawl space. He opened the bag and pulled out a complete MP-41 minus a broken stock. Now, what are his options from here. I told him he needs to contact the ATF to find out if the serial number was registered in '68. I told him more than likely it will end up being turned in to be destroyed, sad to say. If the receiver was to be destroyed according to ATF standards could he keep it?
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What the other guys in the thread have said.  Read the link in the first post.  Lots of good info there.  So if he cleans out houses he gets to keep what's in them?  Who owns the house?  Wouldn't it really be their gun?  If some old paperwork to the gun can be found from what I understand a good attorney could possibly get it added to the registry.  Oh and DO NOT CALL THE ATF AND TELL THEM YOU FOUND A MACHINE GUN UNLESS YOU (or your friend) FEEL LIKE GOING TO PRISON!!!  Have an attorney do it, they have attorney client privilege and if it isn't registered they can tell the BATF to go **** themselves if they start to ask any questions as to who has possession of it.  With no paper trail, you might as well cut it up like others have said.  Just keep all the parts but the receiver.
2/8/2014 3:30:18 PM EDT
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So a guy I work with cleans out houses as a side job. He was cleaning one out this past weekend and pulled a sea bag out of the crawl space. He opened the bag and pulled out a complete MP-41 minus a broken stock. Now, what are his options from here. I told him he needs to contact the ATF to find out if the serial number was registered in '68. I told him more than likely it will end up being turned in to be destroyed, sad to say. If the receiver was to be destroyed according to ATF standards could he keep it?
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That parts kit alone is worth a pretty penny, Mp41 is a very rare German SMG variant.
2/8/2014 6:22:37 PM EDT
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I'd just keep it and not tell a damn soul I had it.    But thats just me.
2/8/2014 6:42:54 PM EDT
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I'd just keep it and not tell a damn soul I had it.    But thats just me.
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This. But since it's already on the internet, follow the link in the first post. That's the best advice you can get.
2/8/2014 6:46:28 PM EDT
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I'd just keep it and not tell a damn soul I had it.    But thats just me.
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2/8/2014 7:13:42 PM EDT
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Ok so basically everything thats been mentioned in the thread so far is what I've told him. He said there was no paperwork to be found or that exists to the best of his knowledge. I told him that receiver needs to be stripped and then torch cut. As mentioned I told him the parts alone will go for a decent sum. Thanks for the info guys!
2/8/2014 7:22:54 PM EDT
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Ok so basically everything thats been mentioned in the thread so far is what I've told him. He said there was no paperwork to be found or that exists to the best of his knowledge. I told him that receiver needs to be stripped and then torch cut. As mentioned I told him the parts alone will go for a decent sum. Thanks for the info guys!
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Pics if you can get them too please.

ETA: of any markings, stamps, proofs, etc before you take the torch to it. I'm sure there are people who would like that for reference if possible.
2/9/2014 5:40:48 AM EDT
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Ok so basically everything thats been mentioned in the thread so far is what I've told him. He said there was no paperwork to be found or that exists to the best of his knowledge. I told him that receiver needs to be stripped and then torch cut. As mentioned I told him the parts alone will go for a decent sum. Thanks for the info guys!
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Fully document that gun first before cutting it. If you did not know, MP-41s were commercially sold to the SS and some police units, etc. and were not used by the German Heer (military). Hence, this is why they are so rare. Also, you can find transferable MP-40 tubes and have it re-built and properly legal, though it will cost around $8K.
2/9/2014 1:01:46 PM EDT
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Tell your friend to call the ATF and explain his business what he does and what he found. This happens every day. All they are going to do is come get it. NOTHING ELSE.
2/9/2014 1:47:17 PM EDT
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Tell your friend to call the ATF and explain his business what he does and what he found. This happens every day. All they are going to do is come get it. NOTHING ELSE.
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They will then completely destroy it. Just have him demil it to ATF specs for crying out loud.

Last thing you want to do is involve the ATF, I would think.
2/9/2014 3:11:46 PM EDT
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Unfortunately it has been turned back over to the family. Apparently they have several other firearms that their loved one brough back from the war. They were told to contact my buddy before they do anything. I wish I could have gotten you guys some pics...I want them for myself...
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