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Posted: 11/15/2011 1:43:11 PM EDT
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information?
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information? Thanks. Not normally, not unless you request it. Nothing in the law about it being signed for. Handguns just have to go overnight, that may require a signature, but I can't remember. Honestly I don't recall having to sign for very many of my C&R guns... |
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information? Thanks. I have bought long guns from SOG, Classic Arms and Aim and had to sign for all of them. |
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information? Thanks. I have bought long guns from SOG, Classic Arms and Aim and had to sign for all of them. I've ordered a few from AIM and SOG, and never had to sign.... |
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I used to never have to sign for rifles from AIM but now I do. It changed about 2 years ago. I got a M44 from them back about 2 months ago, and didn't have to sign..... Edit: Tell you the truth I have never had to sign for a package from AIM.... Maybe it is our local UPS but they will not leave it if you do not sign for it anymore. |
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I used to never have to sign for rifles from AIM but now I do. It changed about 2 years ago. I got a M44 from them back about 2 months ago, and didn't have to sign..... Edit: Tell you the truth I have never had to sign for a package from AIM.... Maybe it is our local UPS but they will not leave it if you do not sign for it anymore. Could possibly be the local area. I know the UPS guy on my route, and meet him most of the time on the porch, as he comes later in the evening. Never has needed a sig, and the times i don't catch him he leaves it by the back door on the porch. |
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information? Thanks. http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=27:3.0.1.2.3&idno=27#27:3.0.1.2.3.3.1.13 § 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.
top (a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped: Provided, That any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without violating any provision of this part. (b) No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container indicating that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm. (c) No common or contract carrier shall transport or deliver in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm or ammunition with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that the shipment, transportation, or receipt thereof would be in violation of any provision of this part: Provided, however, That the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply in respect to the transportation of firearms or ammunition in in-bond shipment under Customs laws and regulations. (d) No common or contract carrier shall knowingly deliver in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm without obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt from the recipient of the package or other container in which there is a firearm: Provided, That this paragraph shall not apply with respect to the return of a firearm to a passenger who places firearms in the carrier's custody for the duration of the trip. [33 FR 18555, Dec. 14, 1968. Redesignated at 40 FR 16385, Apr. 15, 1975, and amended by T.D. ATF–354, 59 FR 7112, Feb. 14, 1994; T.D. ATF–361, 60 FR 10786, Feb. 27, 1995] |
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Thank you very much Dogtown! |
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There is no legal requirement for a signature on delivery of a C&R long gun. The shipper may request a signature for there own protection to prove it was delivered. I've had long guns delivered by usps, ups and fed ex with no signature. Yes, there is. See DogtownTom's post above. It doesn't apply to the USPS however since they are not a contract or common carrier. |
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It has always been my thought that a signature is required for delivery of a C&R rifle, however, I have someone telling me otherwise. I checked the ATF website and can't find any language stating one way or the other. Could someone please point me to a reliable source for this information? Thanks. http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=27:3.0.1.2.3&idno=27#27:3.0.1.2.3.3.1.13 § 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.
top (a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped: Provided, That any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without violating any provision of this part. (b) No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container indicating that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm. (c) No common or contract carrier shall transport or deliver in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm or ammunition with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that the shipment, transportation, or receipt thereof would be in violation of any provision of this part: Provided, however, That the provisions of this paragraph shall not apply in respect to the transportation of firearms or ammunition in in-bond shipment under Customs laws and regulations. (d) No common or contract carrier shall knowingly deliver in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm without obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt from the recipient of the package or other container in which there is a firearm: Provided, That this paragraph shall not apply with respect to the return of a firearm to a passenger who places firearms in the carrier's custody for the duration of the trip. [33 FR 18555, Dec. 14, 1968. Redesignated at 40 FR 16385, Apr. 15, 1975, and amended by T.D. ATF–354, 59 FR 7112, Feb. 14, 1994; T.D. ATF–361, 60 FR 10786, Feb. 27, 1995] What has probably happened is that some UPS drivers were unaware of this reg and now more are aware so they require a signature more often. And there maybe some that are not taking the signature as required and thus are violating the regulation. |
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