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Posted: 3/23/2011 3:01:22 PM EDT
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I have a friend who wants to buy my perfectly ordinary Izzy 1942 91/30. Bore is decent, accuracy is very good. I would sell for $100. Local shop has a 1940 Izzy Finn caputure, SA marked, Fin 91/30 stock, force matched magazine, Finn sling. He wants $120 for the Finn capture. The bore looks decent, but too dirty to tell for sure. My guess is it will clean up well.
Work the deal, or is $120 too much for a weekly shooter? |
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The Finns had much tighter specs on accuracy and any rifle with the SA marks on it met those specs. If it a Russian barrel it was a good one. If the Russian barrel was not good enough they installed Tikka, Sako or VTK barrels on them. Get the Finn for $120. This isn't entirely true. While the Finns did build a lot of their own rifles, using their own barrels on captured Russian parts, I've never seen a captured 91/30 with a Finn barrel and I have also seen many (like almost all of them) captured 91/30's that had their original barrel and an SA mark. They flipped these rifles as fast as possible to get them back in action. For a complete captured rifle, I don't think they had to meet any sort of accuracy criteria, so long as the weapon was in serviceable condition. The ones that they built would be a different story, of course. |
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Mosins are like Jello, there's always room for more! Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1 NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING Sigline material right there, lol. I agree, OP should buy the Finn'ed one and keep his as well. The friend can find a 91/30 for cheap even if not from you. Quoted:
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The Finns had much tighter specs on accuracy and any rifle with the SA marks on it met those specs. If it a Russian barrel it was a good one. If the Russian barrel was not good enough they installed Tikka, Sako or VTK barrels on them. Get the Finn for $120. This isn't entirely true. While the Finns did build a lot of their own rifles, using their own barrels on captured Russian parts, I've never seen a captured 91/30 with a Finn barrel and I have also seen many (like almost all of them) captured 91/30's that had their original barrel and an SA mark. They flipped these rifles as fast as possible to get them back in action. For a complete captured rifle, I don't think they had to meet any sort of accuracy criteria, so long as the weapon was in serviceable condition. The ones that they built would be a different story, of course. That isn't entirely true either. Yes some were rushed back into service once captured or never left the hands of the unit which captured it until the end of the war, but at the arsenal during, in between, and AFTER the wars captured rifles were virtually all graded for their accuracy and bore condition. Ones found to be unacceptable were either rearsenaled if their bore was still ok or were scrapped for parts for the production of Finnish Mosin variations. Keep in mind that the rifles recieved the [SA] mark at the arsenal. Because of this, [SA] marked 91/30's are by in large far more accurate than your average refurbed Soviet 91/30 and that the [SA] marked 91/30's not graded for condition/accuracy are more uncommon. However, this does not mean that the [SA] marked 91/30 was not mistreated in the U.S. and that there still aren't Soviet refurbed 91/30's with perfect bores and well fitting stocks out there which could be just as good or even better. |
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You do understand that to have what is considered a "captured" 91/30, it would still have the Russian barrel, right? If they put a new, Finn barrel on it, it would then be a Finn built 91/30. Either could be SA marked and the original comment that I was addressing was:
The Finns had much tighter specs on accuracy and any rifle with the SA marks on it met those specs.
So far as I know, the SA mark has absolutely nothing to do with a weapon's accuracy. It's only a property mark. |
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