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1/22/2010 1:49:14 PM EDT
I have a question about non-C&R firearms record keeping.  I just got my license a week or so ago and am starting to record all the non-C&R guns I already have in the book I got in the RK Enterprises packet.  What information is ATF-required?  The amount of info asked in this book is crazy:

>Manufacturer
>Model
>SN
>Type
>Caliber/gauge
>New/used/acquired unfired
>Date of mfg
>Country of mfg
># shots
>Barrel length
>Choke
>Finish
>Optics
>Other accessories
>Comments
>Acquisition
>Disposition
>Improvements/repairs/modifications

Which of these do I need to include?  I figure at least the first 5, but is anything else specifically required by the ATF?
1/22/2010 2:09:01 PM EDT
[#1]
You don't record the firearms that you got before you were licensed (unless and until you dispose of them)

You don't record non-C&R firearms.

Unless you want to.
1/22/2010 2:23:13 PM EDT
[#2]
I think he may just be recording them because he wants to.  I did the same thing when I got my C&R... having a list of guns and their serial numbers is a good idea in case any are ever stolen.  I keep my non-C&R records on separate, removable pages from my C&R guns, so I can remove this non-required information before showing my bound book to the ATF if I ever get inspected.

My bound book contains manufacturer/importer, model, serial number, type, caliber, when and from whom I acquired it, and when and to whom I disposed of it.  I believe this is sufficient to meet the requirements.

Here's a sample page.
1/25/2010 7:22:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Hmmm, maybe I just read something wrong.  Less work for me now
1/28/2010 4:15:20 PM EDT
[#4]
1. I would refrain from logging any non-C&R firearms in my C&R logbook.  Also note, you DO NOT need to log any C&R elligible firearms that you obtained before your license was granted.  I have more C&R firearms from before I received my license than after.  I need to fix that!

2. Do yourself and your insurance company a favor.  Make a seperate written log and photographic log of all your firearms, including a clear close-up of the serial number, accessories, reloading equipment, etc.  

I keep a written log and photographic log on a CD in each gun safe and my personal safe.  Anything valuable that I have gets a photograph and documentation as well.  Also, make sure your insurance is adequate.  Most homeowners policies only cover a base amount for firearms, etc.
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