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Posted: 6/25/2009 1:14:57 PM EDT
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Ok a little background. My father bought a winchester model 190 because 1 it was really cheap, 2 it looked like a rifle he owned as a child, and 3 it was semi auto and cheap to get ammo for.
Here is where the problem started. the gun will FTF about every 3rd round. He took it to 2 local gunshops and they both told him the same thing. "it looks brand new inside and nothing seems to be the matter." We tried 4 different types of ammo on it with the same results. I guess my question is are there any reaccuring problems with this rifle that I could fix at home or was it a waste of 100 bucks? thanks for the help! mike |
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Ok a little background. My father bought a winchester model 190 because 1 it was really cheap, 2 it looked like a rifle he owned as a child, and 3 it was semi auto and cheap to get ammo for. Here is where the problem started. the gun will FTF about every 3rd round. He took it to 2 local gunshops and they both told him the same thing. "it looks brand new inside and nothing seems to be the matter." We tried 4 different types of ammo on it with the same results. I guess my question is are there any reaccuring problems with this rifle that I could fix at home or was it a waste of 100 bucks? thanks for the help! mike I collect the damn things. My dad had one that got ripped off when our house was burglarized. I got that one back, and now buy about 4 a year in my travels. They are actually pretty well made and a lot of gun for the money. They tend to collect a lot of gunk in the bolt that hinders the firing pin travel. Take the trigger group out, then the bolt (watch that spring), and clean and degrease the bolt. They operate best when shot with a wet bolt. I use Kroil; CLP works too. For $100 you got a good deal. I see them all the time for $140+. Just needs a good cleaning. If that doesn't work, you might need a new spring...but I doubt it. Good luck. |
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thanks for the reply. The bolt/ fireing assembly has been removed by 2 different gunsmiths and were spotless. no grease or gunk to be found. My father wet the bolt with CLP before firing. I got to mess with it a bit tonight and it seemed the problem was that the bullet was nosediving when being fed into the chamber. This would cause the bullet/ case to bend and not feed at all. When this would happen I could reach in and press the back of the case down and let the bolt go forward (with no round in the chamber.) 1 time I was able to push down and back on the case and get the nose to pop up and feed. It would feed 3-4 and then jam consistently over 50 rounds. Same problem occuring every time. We tried federal, remington, and a unknown type of round tonight all with the same problems but less often with the federal.
The guy that sold him the rifle has agreed to buy it back and my dad is thinking of going to a 10/22 thanks and any more help would be apprieciated! mike |
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The feed ramps on these things is fixed. If the trigger group is clean and it is still nosediving cartridges, the culprit is the magazine spring. Either the spring is out of spec / worn out or the follower is dragging in the tube. Look for a ding in the tube, High spot on the follower. Mag spring is an easy fix. I bought one about 6 months ago for my 12 year old($110.00). It looked like it was never cleaned. I spent 2 hours cleaning it. The bolt was so gummed up, I doubt it would fire. I mounted a 4x32mm Rimfire scope on it. Nice lttle shooter. Quick question. Is there an easy way to compress the return spring while re-installing the bolt? What a pain! |
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A good friend just gave me one a couple of days ago. Although I've got four other good 22 rifles, I've wanted one since the sixties when my best buddy got one for Christmas. I was mostly shooting my old Springfield single shot back then and that 190 was a dream gun for me.
I have researched these little guns for a couple of days now and it seems that the nut holding the barrel to the receiver has a tendency to work itself loose and cause problems with feeding and ejecting. From what I gather, it's a pretty common problem. The fix seems to be some Lock Tite on the threads. Don't know if this is connected to the nose down problem or not. Lots of info on them over at Rimfire Central. |
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