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12/5/2006 8:22:18 PM EDT

Can anyone tell me about the lethality or effectiveness of the 60 gr. ss ammo from aguila?

I think it is "advertised" as a sniper round.

Would this be any better than any other .22 long rifle from a 10/22?




thanks
12/6/2006 7:58:54 AM EDT
[#1]
I have never killed anything with one so I cannot speak to the lethality of it, but it does hit stuff hard.  It has almost 50% more energy than a standard velocity .22 and more than 50% more than a remington sub-sonic hollowpoint.  My buddy has a cat confirmed kill at 50yds with the remington hp.  So I recon it is lethal...  

 
12/6/2006 8:31:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I have them they work good
12/6/2006 8:40:48 AM EDT
[#3]
Kill what?
12/6/2006 8:54:20 AM EDT
[#4]
It will suck the 9 lives out of Tom faster than my daughters can take the cash from my wallet.... well, maybe it's a tie.
12/6/2006 9:04:03 AM EDT
[#5]
Its an unstable  60gr. 5.56mm bullet traveling at 950 ft per sec.  Bullet fragmentation - zero - penetration at that speed - minimum.  Trajectory - poor.  Fun and quite.  Match the bullet to its intended target and I believe that the terminal performance would not be what a faster, lighter HP is able to do.
12/6/2006 10:18:20 AM EDT
[#6]
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Its an unstable  60gr. 5.56mm bullet traveling at 950 ft per sec.  Bullet fragmentation - zero - penetration at that speed - minimum.  Trajectory - poor.  Fun and quite.  Match the bullet to its intended target and I believe that the terminal performance would not be what a faster, lighter HP is able to do.


Shoot them out of your 22lr adapter kit in your AR with a 1:9 or faster twist and the bullet will fly stable.  The standard 22LR is only 1:16 and that is not fast enough to stabilize that long of a bullet.

mcb
12/6/2006 11:43:45 AM EDT
[#7]
I've dropped black birds at 75 yards with the SSS & they leave a pretty good sized hole in them. They are quite accurate out of my Armi Jager SP1 copy.
12/6/2006 4:59:12 PM EDT
[#8]
I have shot them in a couple of 10/22s without stability or accuracy issues.  I have not tried them in a micro grove barrel though.  

 
12/7/2006 5:12:14 AM EDT
[#9]
I get about 14" of penetration in gel with a 6.5" 1/9 barrel from my 10/22. If you use a system that will stabilize it, it is pretty deadly. My only gripes are the crappy trajectory, and the .22 Short case they use with it.
12/7/2006 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#10]
The short case is my biggest problem too...
12/7/2006 10:02:31 PM EDT
[#11]
It's nice to be able to shoot them out of my 77/22 without ear protection.
12/8/2006 4:38:37 AM EDT
[#12]
How loud are they actually? How does it compare to Super Colibri in terms of quietness and accuracy?  There's gun powder in the SSS, right?  

12/8/2006 8:39:39 AM EDT
[#13]
Much louder than the Super Colibri.  The SSS has gunpowder.  Shoots fine in my AR with 1/9 twist.  Really smacks metal plates.  Dirty as hell.  Stinks.
12/8/2006 1:45:37 PM EDT
[#14]
They did not stabilize out of my 10-22.  Would impact target sideways at 25yds. in a pattern about 5-6" big.
12/8/2006 6:45:56 PM EDT
[#15]
My expieriance: I have killed one very large coon with 1 shot, he layed on the ground convulsing for about 1 minute. Distance: 20 yards.

It shot reliably through my Marling/Glenfield 60, but I never accuracy tested it.

When I shot at papere yesterday from a henry lever gun and a Ruger mark 2 pistol I thought it was key holing, though it was hitting where I was aiming, it was hard to tell for sure if it was really key holeing.

It seemed quiet in my glenfield 60, but seemed VERY loud from the henry and ruger pistol. I think it was about as loud as standard .22 LR from those. I don't know why it seemed quieter from the marlin/glenfield?

It is no where near as quiet as the CCI CB (short) round, wich I love to shoot in my EAA bounty hunter and henry lever actions, but it sadly won't fly in my autos.

I had numerios problems feeding in the Ruger mark 2, but it was the first time I ever had shot it. The first time I racked the slide it double fed, then I had a few more double feeds and failure to extracts. But it was the ONLY ammo I ever tryed in said weapon, so YMMV.
12/10/2006 9:19:43 PM EDT
[#16]
As far as the noise goes, it will louder in a semi-pistol because the case is short. What this means is that the gases are still burning in the barrel when the slide comes back and starts the ejection cycle. As for it being stinky and dirty, all Aguila ammo is like that, and for a good reason-it's because of the way they prime the ammo. Aguila uses the Eley priming process, and if you know anything about Rimfires, that's a good thing.

The ammo will stabilize out to traditional rimfire ranges in most barrels. If this is a problem for your purposes, there are purpose made fast twist barrels that shoot standard subsonic ammo just fine as well. One other option if you like this ammo and it doesn't shoot in your guns is to use a Paco Accurizer on the rounds. Apparently the tool shortens the ammo enough that the standard twist of a .22 is not as marginal.

Dave
12/12/2006 12:57:25 PM EDT
[#17]

How do you think these will perform from a 22" barrel with a standerd twist?




12/12/2006 5:54:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

How do you think these will perform from a 22" barrel with a standerd twist?






They are not that expensive so you may as well try a box.  I have had 2 10/22's that they shot well in and 2 that they didn't.  You can probably say that for just about any barrel.  
12/13/2006 2:38:17 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

How do you think these will perform from a 22" barrel with a standerd twist?






They will probably be fine, but it's hard to say what the velocity will be. Most .22's reach peak velocity in abou 18" of barrel. The powder in the .22 SSS rounds burns really fast-this is necessary because of the long bullet not leaving as much room for the case, so the case length is really short. As far as it stabilizing or not, it's a crap shoot. Most barrels will stabilize it out to 100yds. in my experience but there's no telling what guns won't stabilize it but those with micro-groove barrels (can't remember the brand). I think the chamber has a lot to do with it, so it may be better in a bolt gun than a semi on average.

These rounds leave a 16" barrel at 950fps on average, and you don't want to go a lot faster than that if you intend to keep them subsonic.
12/15/2006 7:41:03 PM EDT
[#20]
One coyote at about 7 yards got a taste in my neighbors back yard a few years ago when it came back to try and finish the job on their kick toy, er, little dog.  5 rounds in about 2 seconds and it was down for the count.  No issues from the 3 pistols and 2 rifles i shot it out of.
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