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Posted: 9/13/2006 4:41:18 PM EDT
| Has anyone tried the walmart Winchester Xpert 22 packs? Picked one up today on sale 500 for $4.89. Curios if they are any good?? |
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Just spent the afternoon with my kids shooting. Bought one box, lots of duds ,more than 10%. I'll go back to the Ferdral rarely have a misfire . I picked up several of the Winchester and tried shooting thru other 22 weapons. Even with 5 or 6 rimfire hits had close to 45 duds out of 525 rounds. Plus the Winchester is all lead , no copper coating, to prevent leading of your bores. |
This Federal stuff is ALL I shoot, it's cheap and works VERY well in Ciener Kit. I had also bought the Rem Golden Bullets 550 pack and had nothing but problems with it. Lots of FTF some with weak primers (hammer dropped but no bang), a lot of them seemed like they had some excess and would get wedged in the chamber half way through, the extractor couldn't get them out I had to use curved needle nose. Even with a nice spray of Rem Oil in the chamber some rounds were still getting wedged. For fun plinking this Federal Value Pack is the best, shoots a little dirty but nothing to fuss over considering the price and accuracy. |
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Actually I went camping this weekend and went through alot of rounds. I would say probably 5 or 6 boxes of the Federals (between 2500-3000rds) between my 10/22, Browning Buckmark, and P22. Anyway, towards the end of the trip the Walther wouldn't go more than two or three shots between malfunctions. I tried some Remington bulk that another friend had and it ran like a top. So.... I don't know what the deal was. The only thing I can think of is that I didn't have a deceasant pack in with the ammo. It was only the stuff towards the bottom of the ammo can (I dump my bulk packs in a 7.62 Army ammo can.) The Browning still ran it fine for the most part even though it probably had the most rounds down the pipe out of the other two guns. |
Just cut some cardboard to size and line the inside and bottom of your 7.62 can. The cardboard will/should prevent moisture build up. It might just do the trick and it's a cheap way of solving the problem. Hope that helps... |
| I have never tried those packs at Wally world, but I will definitely give them a shot if they are that cheap at my local wally world. So far though, the only ammo that won't run in my 10/22 and 22/45 is the CCI blazer stuff. Bith guns like the Remy golden bullet the best. |
| Has anyone else had problems with the wax building up with the Federal bulk packs? I went through 2 boxes last weekend and was having FTE's (stovepipes). It was a brand new 10/22 and I couldn't figure out what the problem was. I got home and field stripped it, and it was only after I got the bolt out I noticed that there was some wax buildup right by the ejector. I haven't been back out to see if that was the problem, but I assume it was. On the plus side, I didn't have a single dud. I usually have a few with the remington packs. |
I'm starting to get some but I haven't cleaned it in three years. I only shoot the Federal bulk packs and Stingers through the gun. I have shot a few other different CCI variations but not many. |
This was after less than a thousand rounds, and less than 1500 on the whole rifle. I really like the groups I'm getting out of the federal, but I can't have FTE's every mag. Could it be something else? |
This was after less than a thousand rounds, and less than 1500 on the whole rifle. I really like the groups I'm getting out of the federal, but I can't have FTE's every mag. Could it be something else? |
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The "ejector" on a 10/22 doesn't. Ejection is handled by a projection on the left lip of the magazine. Most common cause of stovepiping and other ejection problems on 10/22 is a weak extractor. Replacement of the factory extractor with a VQ unit usually makes them disappear. |
The warning about Stingers with the longer case only applies to the 10/22T. Regular models with the standard chamber are fine. My cousin's 10/22 got a bunch of jams with the Xperts and my 22/45 won't feed them either. The Ciener feeds them OK, but the last box was borderline on getting it to cycle far enough back to cock the hammer. Was OK until it got a little dirty. Switched to Fed. 550 pack and it kept running. All my other guns are manually operated and feed the Xperts fine. Accuracy has generally been a little better than the Federal, and the big HP blows up water-filled stuff a lot better than that dimple on the Fed. Rem GB 550 packs seem to be inbetween on accuracy in most of my guns, but dirtier--leaves black soot on the outside of the case. BTW, $4.89 is a great price for them. They're $9.22 at WM here now. I've never seen them cheaper than the $7.87 they used to be at WM. |
Over the last three weeks we have shoot 6050 rounds thru two diffent bolt actions, one pump, two different semi's(one 10/22 ,one marlin60ss) not a single misfire/ dud/ FTE problem. I clean them (have the kids clean them with) after every trip. Brake cleaner spray from walmart, hoppes#9 and use a little elite oil and now an starting use use dry moly spray on some place. I love my cheap Federals, getting good groups and kids are having a blast. |
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