RMA #1199 Level IV - Under 5 lb Armor Plate :O Demonstration

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Posted: 10/10/2017 12:33:43 AM EDT

So I'll admit I should have tested the rounds in a different manner. I should have hit it with the two 2 M2AP at 100 fps+ over spec after the .308 M80A1. I wonder if the M80A1 at 3,400 fps did a lot of the tiles in. If anything I know the NIJ has tested the plates in compliance with Level IV, and there's a ballistic lab report of the plate stopping M995 @ 100m equivalent velocity. So it's a super light level IV plate, but is not going to hold up very well to multi hit. It's also so light weight because the actual ceramic strike face is 8x10, rather than the full dimensions of 10x12". As I mentioned in the video, it won't be for everyone, and it was created for some government contract. i have the AR500 Armor Level IV coming up soon.
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Sub 5lb NIJ level IV Body Armor. RMA Model 1199

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa_zFdvJXI

Posted: 10/10/2017 1:19:23 AM EDT

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Very neat, it's super rare to see someone actually test one of these more expensive plates. Is something up with your sound after the drop test? Might be an issue of me trying to play the video with my phone though.

Posted: 10/10/2017 1:24:29 AM EDT

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Very neat, it's super rare to see someone actually test one of these more expensive plates. Is something up with your sound after the drop test? Might be an issue of me trying to play the video with my phone though.

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Could be youTube being a pos, or could be using different cameras to do the video and audio. Sometimes it's hard for me to normalize audio across all sources with the editing software I use. So the iphone will record softer audio, and the DSLR can get a little boomy :O

Posted: 10/10/2017 2:18:20 AM EDT

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Looks great, I may have to pick up the Lvl 4 plates they have 2 for 199. After seeing all the breakthroughs from XM193 on steel, I am rethinking my Steel set. And at that price its only 60-70 more then I paid for the steels a year ago

Posted: 10/10/2017 11:56:01 AM EDT

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Looks great, I may have to pick up the Lvl 4 plates they have 2 for 199. After seeing all the breakthroughs from XM193 on steel, I am rethinking my Steel set. And at that price its only 60-70 more then I paid for the steels a year ago

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Their $199/2 plates are the #1155 plate. They are indeed tougher than this model demo'd above. The 1155 uses a single piece strike face made from Alumina Ceramic. I tested the precursor to it (#1145 same strike face) and it took a beating.

Posted: 10/10/2017 3:34:01 PM EDT

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Would one of you guys mind posting a link to these particular plates please? Thanks...

Posted: 10/10/2017 5:16:52 PM EDT

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The $200 plate deal:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155-set/

Plate model tested in the OP:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1199/

Posted: 10/12/2017 2:26:28 AM EDT

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The $200 plate deal:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155-set/

Plate model tested in the OP:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1199/

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Would one of you guys mind posting a link to these particular plates please? Thanks...

The $200 plate deal:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155-set/

Plate model tested in the OP:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1199/

Cool, thank you

Posted: 10/15/2017 11:47:09 PM EDT

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So I'll admit I should have tested the rounds in a different manner. I should have hit it with the two 2 M2AP at 100 fps+ over spec after the .308 M80A1. I wonder if the M80A1 at 3,400 fps did a lot of the tiles in. If anything I know the NIJ has tested the plates in compliance with Level IV, and there's a ballistic lab report of the plate stopping M995 @ 100m equivalent velocity. So it's a super light level IV plate, but is not going to hold up very well to multi hit. It's also so light weight because the actual ceramic strike face is 8x10, rather than the full dimensions of 10x12". As I mentioned in the video, it won't be for everyone, and it was created for some government contract. i have the AR500 Armor Level IV coming up soon.
I've been having audio issues with this upload. Try one of these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa_zFdvJXI

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From what I’ve seen the ar500 lvl 4 should do fairly well with multi hits unless it’s in the very same spot. One vid shows it take four ak47 hits in the same spot from very close range until it failed.

Posted: 10/16/2017 2:40:41 PM EDT

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From what I’ve seen the ar500 lvl 4 should do fairly well with multi hits unless it’s in the very same spot. One vid shows it take four ak47 hits in the same spot from very close range until it failed.

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So I'll admit I should have tested the rounds in a different manner. I should have hit it with the two 2 M2AP at 100 fps+ over spec after the .308 M80A1. I wonder if the M80A1 at 3,400 fps did a lot of the tiles in. If anything I know the NIJ has tested the plates in compliance with Level IV, and there's a ballistic lab report of the plate stopping M995 @ 100m equivalent velocity. So it's a super light level IV plate, but is not going to hold up very well to multi hit. It's also so light weight because the actual ceramic strike face is 8x10, rather than the full dimensions of 10x12". As I mentioned in the video, it won't be for everyone, and it was created for some government contract. i have the AR500 Armor Level IV coming up soon.
I've been having audio issues with this upload. Try one of these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa_zFdvJXI

From what I’ve seen the ar500 lvl 4 should do fairly well with multi hits unless it’s in the very same spot. One vid shows it take four ak47 hits in the same spot from very close range until it failed.

It actually didn't do too bad, but much of the strike face was easily damaged.. Working on video this week

Posted: 10/16/2017 11:55:00 PM EDT

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Very interested as that’s what I’m rocking and wondering if I should get them again as my second set.

Posted: 10/21/2017 11:49:11 PM EDT

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The $200 plate deal:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155-set/

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How will these $200 plates hold up to heat? Like stored behind the back seat of a truck in the summer? If they can take that, and if I can find an "economical" carrier, I may buy a set to have around just in case.

Posted: 10/23/2017 12:50:12 AM EDT

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How will these $200 plates hold up to heat? Like stored behind the back seat of a truck in the summer? If they can take that, and if I can find an "economical" carrier, I may buy a set to have around just in case.

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The actual strike face of the 1155 is ceramic. There's probably no heat that you'd experience in a car that would damage that. There's been claims of the PE backers of Level IV not liking heat, and the general suggestion is to leave them out of heat where you wouldn't put yourself in :D I can ask them if there's any available data on heat in relation to PE endurance. I could probably come up with a demo

Posted: 11/18/2017 12:39:02 PM EDT

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Ever test the ar500 ceramics yet?

Posted: 11/18/2017 10:15:35 PM EDT

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Yeah, just gotta work on the video. I'll see what I can do tonight..

Posted: 11/18/2017 10:20:15 PM EDT

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Nice. Post a link when you get it uploaded.

Posted: 11/18/2017 11:19:51 PM EDT

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Awesome. You da man! Any preview? Hints? Lol

Posted: 11/19/2017 1:45:30 AM EDT

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It stopped M80A1 @ 3300 fps :D

Posted: 11/22/2017 12:49:22 PM EDT

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Ever test the ar500 ceramics yet?

Yeah, just gotta work on the video. I'll see what I can do tonight..

How much longer before you get this one done?

Posted: 11/22/2017 4:03:32 PM EDT

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Is that 8.3# with both plates or one?

Posted: 11/22/2017 4:35:24 PM EDT

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The website says 8.3 per plate.

Posted: 11/22/2017 4:37:06 PM EDT

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How will these $200 plates hold up to heat? Like stored behind the back seat of a truck in the summer? If they can take that, and if I can find an "economical" carrier, I may buy a set to have around just in case.

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The $200 plate deal:
http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155-set/

How will these $200 plates hold up to heat? Like stored behind the back seat of a truck in the summer? If they can take that, and if I can find an "economical" carrier, I may buy a set to have around just in case.

They have a budget carrier and 2 of the 1155 plates for $264 and change. http://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-operator-system-w-model-1155-plates/