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Posted: 8/27/2017 3:08:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2017 3:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPrice is a little higher than I'd like, but they list two (radically different) capacity numbers.
"Length: 7.50 in Width: 12.00 in Height: 24.00 in Comparative Volume: 3600ci / 60L" 7.5 * 12 * 24 = 2160, not 3600. 2160 cubic inches = 35.39 liters, not 60. |
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Posted: 8/27/2017 3:47:15 PM EDT
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Just about all packs at the size will, to a degree, hit you in the back of the heads if you load it completely full if the suspension is properly adjusted for your body. For guys, I usually recommend taking a solid glance at the Gregory Baltoro lineup. I would definitely make sure that the pack frame is properly fitted to your body as well-- which is something folks at REI can measure and help you out with.
Unless you want to get into the ALICE/mountain-ruck style, even large military-style packs will have that head issue (Kifaru, Mystery ranch, EXO Mountain gear, etc.) |
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Posted: 8/27/2017 4:05:58 PM EDT
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If you swing by your local National Guard or Army Reserve armory, the recruiter there will be happy to get you a .mil spec rucksack w/ frame. All you have to do is sign some paperwork.
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Posted: 8/27/2017 4:17:56 PM EDT
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It's not the lightest but I have been happy with the ILBE I picked up a couple of years ago. It's a little bigger 75L but carries everything I need including a lot of water. I found it new for a great deal and its works. When absolutely fully loaded I guess it would bump my head and I'm 6'3" but I don't normally stuff the top cover too much.
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Posted: 8/28/2017 12:08:12 PM EDT
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Price is a little higher than I'd like, but they list two (radically different) capacity numbers. "Length: 7.50 in Width: 12.00 in Height: 24.00 in Comparative Volume: 3600ci / 60L" 7.5 * 12 * 24 = 2160, not 3600. 2160 cubic inches = 35.39 liters, not 60. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:49:43 PM EDT
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I have always been confused by these numbers f rom HPG as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Price is a little higher than I'd like, but they list two (radically different) capacity numbers. "Length: 7.50 in Width: 12.00 in Height: 24.00 in Comparative Volume: 3600ci / 60L" 7.5 * 12 * 24 = 2160, not 3600. 2160 cubic inches = 35.39 liters, not 60. rom HPG as well. My load weighed in at 37lb with food and water for four days. My sleep system consisted of a hammock/tarp and a woobie plus a couple extra base layers at night. I didn't really bring anything that didn't get used on the trip and still ended up pretty much filling up the Qui-Ya with gear. I guess the point that I am trying to make is that the Ute would not have been big enough without a Tarapocket or some other similar add on. It is very tempting to build up a modular system out of HPG components. UTE+Tarapocket+2016 Butt Pack (which straps onto the lid of the UTE) would make a pretty slick, scalable system but by the time you spend all that money putting it together, you might as well just buy the Qui-Ya and tighten those compression straps down to whatever load you need to carry. I do not regret spending the money. My pack is worth every penny and I will probably be a repeat customer at some point. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:25:12 PM EDT
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I think any pack that's 60l+ is going to have a tall enough lid that if you tilt your head back you're gonna bonk it. My Arcteryx Bora 80, if I remember right, has a cut-out area to be helmet compatible. But it looks about like this guy when i'm wearing it:
My old Bora 80 is by far the most comfortable pack i've had all the way up through 40lbs. I just got a Granite Gear Nimbus Trace 60 (nimbus 70) and while I like it I need some more time in it to see how I truly feel about it. I do love the panel loading and all the compression straps. My friend went through a ton of mil-surp packs trying to find the perfect pack. I also spent my fair share of time with military style packs from Camelbak, Mystery Ranch, Kifary, Kelty and some others i'm forgetting. What I learned was that they probably have some pretty cool features for people who are actually deploying with them, but they're not necessarily the best thing for backpacking. My friend's last foray with mil-surps were a Bergans 120L bag and the ILBE. He removed like half the molle and some other stuff from the ILBE to lighten it up but it was still heavier than any other pack we've ever had. Did it do anything any better than the commercial offerings? No. But at least at the time it was fairly inexpensive, I guess they have a cult following now and have gone up in value a lot. Short story: I'd say stick with off the shell back packing packs. Try stuff on like you did, but maybe buy online from sierratradingpost.com or moosejaw.com or whoever has it cheap. Osprey is another great back company with lots of cool features. Maybe i'm spoiled backpacking in WA, but are there no water sources where you go hiking there? I pack maybe 1-2 liters at max and plan on filtering everything else along the way. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:15:28 PM EDT
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I think any pack that's 60l+ is going to have a tall enough lid that if you tilt your head back you're gonna bonk it. My Arcteryx Bora 80, if I remember right, has a cut-out area to be helmet compatible. But it looks about like this guy when i'm wearing it: http://www.moontrail.com/details/arcteryx/bora-80/arct-bora80-manc.jpg My old Bora 80 is by far the most comfortable pack i've had all the way up through 40lbs. I just got a Granite Gear Nimbus Trace 60 (nimbus 70) and while I like it I need some more time in it to see how I truly feel about it. I do love the panel loading and all the compression straps. My friend went through a ton of mil-surp packs trying to find the perfect pack. I also spent my fair share of time with military style packs from Camelbak, Mystery Ranch, Kifary, Kelty and some others i'm forgetting. What I learned was that they probably have some pretty cool features for people who are actually deploying with them, but they're not necessarily the best thing for backpacking. My friend's last foray with mil-surps were a Bergans 120L bag and the ILBE. He removed like half the molle and some other stuff from the ILBE to lighten it up but it was still heavier than any other pack we've ever had. Did it do anything any better than the commercial offerings? No. But at least at the time it was fairly inexpensive, I guess they have a cult following now and have gone up in value a lot. Short story: I'd say stick with off the shell back packing packs. Try stuff on like you did, but maybe buy online from sierratradingpost.com or moosejaw.com or whoever has it cheap. Osprey is another great back company with lots of cool features. Maybe i'm spoiled backpacking in WA, but are there no water sources where you go hiking there? I pack maybe 1-2 liters at max and plan on filtering everything else along the way. I think my last trip I went through 7 liters in less than 20 hours (13.2 miles, 99 degree high temp). |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 5:44:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryUTE is awesome. I just ordered a pack bucket for mine.
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Posted: 9/2/2017 12:32:36 AM EDT
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Op, Check out the Kelty Falcon.
It's a 66 liter pack that the top is removable to reduce it's size if needed. It's avalible in Tan and brown. It's covered in Molle webbing for whatever expansion you want. I bought it initially to hike 25 miles through Yosemite. It was an AWESOME trip, and the pack was perfect. My bad weighed in at 48lbs when loaded and was pretty good on the trail. Felt stable and solid. Easy to adjust and has now gone on other adventures with me. Only thing I had a hard time with is finding matching pouches when I wanted to make additions. I just used Multicam to break up the brown on it and it looked and blended fine. |
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Posted: 9/2/2017 3:31:26 AM EDT
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Try the Baltoro75 from Gregory. It's the shit.
It feels like it's gonna hit you in the head when you try it on in the store, but once you have weight in it, it will actually flex in a way that you won't ever have it hitting you in the head. Fully adjustable waist belt that flexes independently is a godsend in the mountains. I've taken mine to some rugged ass places. LOVE IT! |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 12:53:02 PM EDT
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I didn't get Baltoro due to hitting my head. Got the Osprey Aether 70. Love it. Hiked all over Texas, New Mexico, Arkansas, and Colorado with it. Just don't try to strap a bear canister on the top. I'd rent the mandarory bear canister, leave it in the truck, an hoist food into trees in a Kevlar or UHMWPE bag, in a loksak.
I find I get tired and spend lots of time looking down, not up. I'd never try to shoot with a pack like that on. |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 6:09:38 PM EDT
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Given your stated parameters, a USMC ILBE pack should fit your needs, as long as wearing hard body armor underneath the pack is not anticipated; the ILBE was discarded because it did not interface well with hard body armor worn on the user's back.
That said, the Gen II ILBE is preferable, as it substitutes coyote brown for the earlier black (easily seen with Night vision devices) fabric. A large ALICE pack, set up in Hellcat mode, would also serve, for cheap, but good. Google Old Grouch. Even a used FILBE pack might make do, although there are some(correctible) issues with the early units commonly offered. As you have noticed, some packs prevent full head/neck extension to the rear of the user. This is common amongst high-capacity civilian packs, With respect to Military packs, this condition is generally considered a No-GO, as such prevents the Soldier from dropping prone, and returning aimed fire while in prone position. Mil packs are almost never as tall as civvy packs, and for that exact reason. This head-movement issue being the case, most Military packs tend to augment carrying capacity to the sides, and/or the bottom of the pack. Both augmentations have practical limits. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:05:52 PM EDT
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Anybody have experience with the Kelty Falcon? Seems like with the brain remove it would work for me (60L pack), other than being heavy (~7 lbs). The fact that it's setup to carry two bladders is really attractive.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 5:30:03 PM EDT
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I had a Kelty Falcon up until this year in the tan color. Pretty light color in my opinion.
Here it is with a tent on one side and a molle attached 'pod' on the other side full of i can't remember what. This was like a 45lb load for a simple overnight with friends but I wanted to bring a lot of stuff. 1. The pack is pretty comfortable and the adjustable yoke is simple enough to do on the fly. 2. There's a lot of molle for better or worse 3. Giant rear facing panel makes loading and unloading a breeze 4. Included rain cover in zipper pouch is pretty cool 5. Ability to remove lid and scale down the size is nice too. Overall not a bad pack. 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:38:30 PM EDT
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I had a Kelty Falcon up until this year in the tan color. Pretty light color in my opinion. https://i.imgur.com/Rlm6p2l.jpg Here it is with a tent on one side and a molle attached 'pod' on the other side full of i can't remember what. This was like a 45lb load for a simple overnight with friends but I wanted to bring a lot of stuff. 1. The pack is pretty comfortable and the adjustable yoke is simple enough to do on the fly. 2. There's a lot of molle for better or worse 3. Giant rear facing panel makes loading and unloading a breeze 4. Included rain cover in zipper pouch is pretty cool 5. Ability to remove lid and scale down the size is nice too. Overall not a bad pack. https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-c9gaghhv/products/2068/images/5205/KL17_Falcon_CoyoteBrown_frontLoad_web__48156.1489443426.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:36:43 PM EDT
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I had a Kelty Falcon up until this year in the tan color. Pretty light color in my opinion. https://i.imgur.com/Rlm6p2l.jpg Here it is with a tent on one side and a molle attached 'pod' on the other side full of i can't remember what. This was like a 45lb load for a simple overnight with friends but I wanted to bring a lot of stuff. 1. The pack is pretty comfortable and the adjustable yoke is simple enough to do on the fly. 2. There's a lot of molle for better or worse 3. Giant rear facing panel makes loading and unloading a breeze 4. Included rain cover in zipper pouch is pretty cool 5. Ability to remove lid and scale down the size is nice too. Overall not a bad pack. https://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-c9gaghhv/products/2068/images/5205/KL17_Falcon_CoyoteBrown_frontLoad_web__48156.1489443426.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 Score! |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:43:13 PM EDT
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Osprey Atmos AG 65
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Posted: 9/16/2017 12:34:14 AM EDT
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Tag to see what other people suggest
I'm looking for exactly what op is describing Almost pulled the trigger on an Ospreys at Sheels for $180 But wanted to do more research on them |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:26:52 AM EDT
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Is it really setup to hang two different bladders inside? |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 2:06:38 PM EDT
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The mystery ranch crew cab is probably an option for you. link to pack. It goes from 1900-5000 (80L) cubic inches pretty readily, and as you stated doesn't raise up high vertically. I use it at work for rucks and other field problems precisely because i can wear an ACH with it and it doesn't restrict mobility of my head. The suspension system is good as well, i routinely carry 50-75 lbs in it. The only tradeoff is when the weight gets over 50 lbs you pay the price for the lower total height of the pack. The frame just isn't tall enough to get full use of the load lifters. That's going to affect any pack you get though if you're looking for lower total height.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 2:26:14 PM EDT
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I have a few Eberlestock packs and have never looked back. There are many great options from them IMO.
The SkyCrane is my current go to, due to the extreme versatility of it. The lady uses a Kelty Coyote 65 for 95% of excursions and it has really held up well. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:22:57 PM EDT
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+1 for the Baltoro 75. Luckily I got it during REI's Labor Day sale a few weeks back and took that bitch with me to Denali. Rugged, comfortable and chock full of awesome features.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:29:02 AM EDT
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I have a few Eberlestock packs and have never looked back. There are many great options from them IMO. The SkyCrane is my current go to, due to the extreme versatility of it. The lady uses a Kelty Coyote 65 for 95% of excursions and it has really held up well. How high do the hard parts of the suspension extend above where the shoulder straps connect to the top of the pack? That's the measurement that seems to be causing my big head to have problems. Are you sure your wife is using the Coyote 65? The women's Coyote packs come in a 60L and 70L; the men's come in a 65L and an 80L. ETA: About the only reviews I can find online of the Coyote 65 are preppers that have a garage full of unused gear and zero experience, plus one hipster from California who calls it a "kay-oh-TAAAY" pack (with a thick fake Asian accent) instead of a "Ki-oh-tee" pack...10 seconds into the video I want to just punch that dude in the throat while screaming "It's pronounced coyote you idiot!"...so, yeah, his review wasn't much help either... |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:57:06 AM EDT
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https://www.rei.com/product/876567/deuter-act-lite-65-10-pack-mens
This is what I settled on. Really great pack with plenty of room, expandability , and good airy suspension that does not feel sweaty on your back like most internal frame packs. Durable too. I have drug it around for many miles now, and it's holding up fine. I have the green version, and it's pretty easy on the eyes. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 7:03:23 AM EDT
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https://www.rei.com/product/876567/deuter-act-lite-65-10-pack-mens This is what I settled on. Really great pack with plenty of room, expandability , and good airy suspension that does not feel sweaty on your back like most internal frame packs. Durable too. I have drug it around for many miles now, and it's holding up fine. I have the green version, and it's pretty easy on the eyes. What's your take on the "+10" feature? Currently I'm using a Source Double D (45L pack) with a REI FlexLite chair strapped to the bottom and a Kelty TrailLogic2 tent split between two MOLLE Sustainment Pouches (roughly 6L each) on each side for a total of ~60L of gear. I'm concerned the 50+10 would be too small. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 8:01:25 AM EDT
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Check out Arcteryx. My Khard works good.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:18:01 AM EDT
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The Coyote 65 is one of those packs I'd really like to try but can't find locally. The 80L version is way to big for what I'm doing (which I have found locally, and it's just way too big). How high do the hard parts of the suspension extend above where the shoulder straps connect to the top of the pack? That's the measurement that seems to be causing my big head to have problems. Are you sure your wife is using the Coyote 65? The women's Coyote packs come in a 60L and 70L; the men's come in a 65L and an 80L. ETA: About the only reviews I can find online of the Coyote 65 are preppers that have a garage full of unused gear and zero experience, plus one hipster from California who calls it a "kay-oh-TAAAY" pack (with a thick fake Asian accent) instead of a "Ki-oh-tee" pack...10 seconds into the video I want to just punch that dude in the throat while screaming "It's pronounced coyote you idiot!"...so, yeah, his review wasn't much help either... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a few Eberlestock packs and have never looked back. There are many great options from them IMO. The SkyCrane is my current go to, due to the extreme versatility of it. The lady uses a Kelty Coyote 65 for 95% of excursions and it has really held up well. How high do the hard parts of the suspension extend above where the shoulder straps connect to the top of the pack? That's the measurement that seems to be causing my big head to have problems. Are you sure your wife is using the Coyote 65? The women's Coyote packs come in a 60L and 70L; the men's come in a 65L and an 80L. ETA: About the only reviews I can find online of the Coyote 65 are preppers that have a garage full of unused gear and zero experience, plus one hipster from California who calls it a "kay-oh-TAAAY" pack (with a thick fake Asian accent) instead of a "Ki-oh-tee" pack...10 seconds into the video I want to just punch that dude in the throat while screaming "It's pronounced coyote you idiot!"...so, yeah, his review wasn't much help either... I thought I got her the 65L, it is indeed the 80L, which you stated is not what you are looking for. Must have looked at the 65L but went 80L just for the amount of crap it takes to stay out for a while. As far as it being a men's model, she is smaller frame but tall, we where able to adjust the pack to fit her extremely well. 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:20:42 AM EDT
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I pulled out the packs in question just to be sure. I thought I got her the 65L, it is indeed the 80L, which you stated is not what you are looking for. Must have looked at the 65L but went 80L just for the amount of crap it takes to stay out for a while. As far as it being a men's model, she is smaller frame but tall, we where able to adjust the pack to fit her extremely well. https://i.imgur.com/EkfGQop.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zuZHO8D.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:21:37 PM EDT
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The problem with military packs is weight, they've gotta be built to survive your average Private. I've got a ILBE pack and a Kelty Redcloud. Both hold about the same amount of stuff with the KELTY having an extra 100 cubic inches of space but coming in at half the weight.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:32:11 PM EDT
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I tried those. Found the 50+10 fit well, but the 65+10 really restricted my head movement. What's your take on the "+10" feature? Currently I'm using a Source Double D (45L pack) with a REI FlexLite chair strapped to the bottom and a Kelty TrailLogic2 tent split between two MOLLE Sustainment Pouches (roughly 6L each) on each side for a total of ~60L of gear. I'm concerned the 50+10 would be too small. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.rei.com/product/876567/deuter-act-lite-65-10-pack-mens This is what I settled on. Really great pack with plenty of room, expandability , and good airy suspension that does not feel sweaty on your back like most internal frame packs. Durable too. I have drug it around for many miles now, and it's holding up fine. I have the green version, and it's pretty easy on the eyes. What's your take on the "+10" feature? Currently I'm using a Source Double D (45L pack) with a REI FlexLite chair strapped to the bottom and a Kelty TrailLogic2 tent split between two MOLLE Sustainment Pouches (roughly 6L each) on each side for a total of ~60L of gear. I'm concerned the 50+10 would be too small. I am of two minds on the large vs smaller packs...the more shit you can fit, the more shit you tend to pack and things get heavy. Its good to be forced to pack light, but its nice to have the room if if you need it. I think its really a best bang for the buck in a quality lightweight backpacking pack. It has really awesome adjustment so you can dial in the fit which is honestly THE most important thing if you want to enjoy your experience with weight on your back. Rei has a fantastic return policy if you wanted to try it out, but honestly once you did I would be very surprised if you did not like it. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:55:24 PM EDT
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My brother picked up one of these. It has held up very well and is actually pretty comfortable.
 
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Posted: 11/1/2017 10:58:48 PM EDT
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to bring some life back to a dying thread...
Another positive vote for Eberlestock packs. I have three different size packs from them and they are all great packs. My Halftrack (2200 Cubic inch pack) has been around the world several times and is still my go-to bag when traveling. The Operator (4700 cu in) is my deployment bag for work (has room for my M4 with a cover). And I have a small Gunrunner (1400 cu in) for hunting/day trek either with or without a rifle. My halftrack has seen the most use of any pack I have ever owned and I haven't had a single issue with it...ever. the fabric still looks like the day I got it (minus some dirt and stains), with no pulls, no fuzzy patches and no holes. And they also stand behind their product with a lifetime warranty for defects or material failure. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 11:08:28 PM EDT
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Another Kelty Falcon fan here.
For overnighters, I have a MAP too (if I can get it away from my son). That pack has gone lots of places, with only a small tear in the top pocket and a lot of trail stains to show for it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:03:28 AM EDT
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Another Kelty Falcon fan here. For overnighters, I have a MAP too (if I can get it away from my son). That pack has gone lots of places, with only a small tear in the top pocket and a lot of trail stains to show for it. Unfortunately job turned toxic, my out-of-work responsibilities are getting in the way of my planned Thanksgiving camping, and I just found out that my truck needs $1300 in work. Gaahhh...not a good couple of weeks. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:34:06 AM EDT
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I'm really starting to like the look of that pack, though not a lot of reviews and I've only been able to find one vendor selling it (for $250). Unfortunately job turned toxic, my out-of-work responsibilities are getting in the way of my planned Thanksgiving camping, and I just found out that my truck needs $1300 in work. Gaahhh...not a good couple of weeks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another Kelty Falcon fan here. For overnighters, I have a MAP too (if I can get it away from my son). That pack has gone lots of places, with only a small tear in the top pocket and a lot of trail stains to show for it. Unfortunately job turned toxic, my out-of-work responsibilities are getting in the way of my planned Thanksgiving camping, and I just found out that my truck needs $1300 in work. Gaahhh...not a good couple of weeks. My older son confiscated my MAP because it holds tackle boxes very well and he can haul gear to fishing tournaments with it. I may never get it back, so I might have to look for a new one. In the interim I’ve used my London Bridge assault pack, which is also great. NOTE: I tried to piggyback my MAP on the falcon once and it was a bad idea, but that’s mostly because it made me carry too much shit, plus it shifted the center of gravity too far from my core. |
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Posted: 11/3/2017 9:24:26 AM EDT
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You can find a Granite Gear AC 58 for cheap.
I've had my VC 48 for a few years now and love it. 
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Posted: 11/3/2017 9:35:36 AM EDT
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You can find a Granite Gear AC 58 for cheap. I've had my VC 48 for a few years now and love it. http://www.utahoutside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/leopard58_front_etheral-682x1024.jpg |
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Posted: 11/3/2017 10:50:19 AM EDT
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How do those do with weight? In my area there's not a lot of water available, and water gets really heavy during the summer. With a properly fitted belt, they handle weight very well. Osprey packs are also something to look into, but they are rarely on sale from what I've seen. I typically carry 3-4 liters of water for drinking/cooking and a Sawyer Water Filter year round. It does have a bladder hanger, but I keep all of my water in 1L platypus bottles. |
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Posted: 11/3/2017 9:54:05 PM EDT
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to bring some life back to a dying thread... Another positive vote for Eberlestock packs. I have three different size packs from them and they are all great packs. My Halftrack (2200 Cubic inch pack) has been around the world several times and is still my go-to bag when traveling. The Operator (4700 cu in) is my deployment bag for work (has room for my M4 with a cover). And I have a small Gunrunner (1400 cu in) for hunting/day trek either with or without a rifle. My halftrack has seen the most use of any pack I have ever owned and I haven't had a single issue with it...ever. the fabric still looks like the day I got it (minus some dirt and stains), with no pulls, no fuzzy patches and no holes. And they also stand behind their product with a lifetime warranty for defects or material failure. |
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Posted: 11/4/2017 3:16:36 PM EDT
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Osprey with their All Mighty Guarantee warranty is hard to beat. I have an Osprey Atmos AG and Osprey Stratos and love them on long hikes and weekend camping trips.
Only thing is it's been a challenge setting up a load out with the pack's hip-belt (e.g. not much gear on my belt line), but the hip belts are worth it for balancing load and their suspension system are best. I would recommend going to REI and spending an afternoon just trying on the packs with weight and walking around the store. I personally hate military style back packs for this type of stuff for how heavy they are and balancing the weight sucks in comparison to actual backpacking packs. |
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