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7/7/2017 8:22:44 PM EDT
Anyone running helmet mounted lights? I have been eyeing the Unity KNUCKL with an Inforce WML and Prince Tec MPLS. How often do you find yourself using it?
7/7/2017 8:54:24 PM EDT
[#1]
I run a Streamlight Sidewinder Compact II. Like it a lot. Can use AA or CR123 batteries, waterproof, shock resistant, IR/Blue/Red/White light options, 3 different levels on each one. It's attached to my helmet with a cheapo Rhino baseplate and the Streamlight NVG baseplate adapter which allows the light to snap right onto any NVG baseplate of the usual style.

As for use, I use it whenever I need hands free light.
7/7/2017 10:39:16 PM EDT
[#2]
I had a streamlight sidewinder and kaiK made fun of me...all the cool kids have the energizer tango hardcase.

He's right, I found one at a PX. It doesnt stick out as much (and snag on shit), but its not as flexible as the streamlight.
7/7/2017 10:51:32 PM EDT
[#3]
I run a Princeton Tec MPLS Switch on one side, and white/IR Inforce WML on the other, and use them quite frequently, though I use them more for "admin" purposes than any kind of tactical ones.

A hands-free task light of some sort is not at all a bad thing to have, and a helmet-mounted "spot" can be useful as well. These items can also be useful with NV if you have that as well.

As always, it's important to be cognizant of light discipline when necessary, as well as other people's eyes/night adapted vision--turning your head quickly to face your buddy when they say something to you with a helmet mounted light is not necessarily the height of politeness.

~Augee
7/7/2017 11:29:35 PM EDT
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I run a Princeton Tec MPLS Switch on one side, and white/IR Inforce WML on the other, and use them quite frequently, though I use them more for "admin" purposes than any kind of tactical ones.

A hands-free task light of some sort is not at all a bad thing to have, and a helmet-mounted "spot" can be useful as well. These items can also be useful with NV if you have that as well.

As always, it's important to be cognizant of light discipline when necessary, as well as other people's eyes/night adapted vision--turning your head quickly to face your buddy when they say something to you with a helmet mounted light is not necessarily the height of politeness.

~Augee
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Happen to have a picture? 
7/8/2017 3:08:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Princetontec Switch (dual color LEDs)w/ Arc Rail adapter.

I use it quite a bit. Very helpful for clearing a gun at night.

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7/8/2017 11:51:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Here's an update so you can see how far the sidewinder sticks out vs the tango hard case.



7/8/2017 5:27:11 PM EDT
[#9]
Currently I run the Norotos shroud with intergrated LEDs. It's great but $$$

I used to run the Princeton tech switch and it worked ok for what it was. Not great by any stretch.
7/8/2017 6:08:35 PM EDT
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Thank you. Do you ever run ear pro / comms?
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Yes, but I've found it more practical not to attach them semi-permanently to my helmet, I just wear them under (OTH comms) the helmet.

If you have the time/inclination, you can actually disconnect the front EPP pad of the Ops-Core and thread the OTH comms over the fit-band, but lately, I haven't even been bothering with that.

More rail space (and allowing for the WML) is an incidental benefit of running them this way, but it's not why I started doing it in the first place.

A couple years back, I actually modified an Ops-Core Base Jump to a Maritime cut so I could mount Com-Tacs on ARC adapters on the rail so they were high enough to avoid being pushed up by my stock and having them unseal when I went to get a good cheek weld. Once I started running my optics on risers, making them taller, and allowing me to get a more "heads up" shooting position, it became a non-issue entirely, and I'm able to use the "standard" XP cut with the OTH comms with no interference.  

~Augee
7/9/2017 8:11:21 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm just a civilian, but have an ACH and Sidewinder Compact 2 with the factory clip-on helmet mount.

I've noticed people who use helmet mounted lights professionally usually mount them on the side.  I tried the side and front, but prefer the front.

Is the side more common because of front mounted NVD or some other reason?
7/9/2017 8:18:11 AM EDT
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This is what I have:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077RHVVK?tag=vglnk-c102-20
7/9/2017 4:46:10 PM EDT
[#13]
I have a couple of Surefires, in different light configurations.  Bought used at local Surplus store for $30 each.

The Princeton light would seem to have advantages in that it can be aimed for specific tasks, independent of main helmet light.  Haven't tried it.

I have the larger Sidewinder, which I use as a vest-mounted light.  The metal clip is anything but secure, so I bought the optional nylon PALS adaptor, which is much more better.  Problem is with that rig is that while the Sidewinder throws a decent amount of light for area illumination, it cannot be angled down enough to illuminate one's path.

The whole point to helmet-mounted lights is that they are fundamentally task-oriented lights.  As such, they are not intended to be area-illumination devices, nor are they intended to be used as targeting devices.

If I were to buy anything again, the aimable Princeton light would be attractive.
7/9/2017 7:22:25 PM EDT
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I have a couple of Surefires, in different light configurations.  Bought used at local Surplus store for $30 each.

The Princeton light would seem to have advantages in that it can be aimed for specific tasks, independent of main helmet light.  Haven't tried it.

I have the larger Sidewinder, which I use as a vest-mounted light.  The metal clip is anything but secure, so I bought the optional nylon PALS adaptor, which is much more better.  Problem is with that rig is that while the Sidewinder throws a decent amount of light for area illumination, it cannot be angled down enough to illuminate one's path.

The whole point to helmet-mounted lights is that they are fundamentally task-oriented lights.  As such, they are not intended to be area-illumination devices, nor are they intended to be used as targeting devices.

If I were to buy anything again, the aimable Princeton light would be attractive.
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My thoughts as well. This will be on my patrol helmet for when the heavy vest comes out. I have a X300 on my G17, surefire fore end on my 870, surefire ultra as main light, and a first light Tmax as a backup. Just wanted something for small/directed light (Princeton) as well as something that can light up more/IR (inforce) 
7/10/2017 10:07:45 AM EDT
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I've used the MPLS Switch on my duty helmet since I was in Korea. Survived -20 degrees there, 125 in Kuwait and Iraq and has shown no signs of slowing down. Super useful for map reading, messing with MRE's or just doing whatever tasks you need to accomplish in low light.
7/10/2017 12:43:39 PM EDT
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The aimable Princeton is one of those things where you see it and go that's got to be awesome!!!11!1

Then you use it and realize you don't need to light up stuff you're not looking at most of the time. Especially admin stuff. And most of the admin lights have some kind of adjustment built in if you do need to make a small adjustment.

With that in mind I ended up with one of those Surefire hln or whatever they are. White/blue/ir. Only gripe is how far it sticks out.
7/10/2017 6:39:38 PM EDT
[#17]
I got rid of my Princetontec. Great little light but I did not like the watch battery power source.
7/10/2017 7:00:52 PM EDT
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I'm just a civilian, but have an ACH and Sidewinder Compact 2 with the factory clip-on helmet mount.

I've noticed people who use helmet mounted lights professionally usually mount them on the side.  I tried the side and front, but prefer the front.

Is the side more common because of front mounted NVD or some other reason?
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A lot of guys used to run headlamps over the helmets, and set them right next to the NVG mounting shroud, or they would just put Velcro on the back and attach them that way.

The front front, where the NVG shroud needs to remain clear, as you surmised, for mounting NVGs, anything that's meant to take the place of the NVGs in the shroud using that kind of adapter is pretty much not going to be used "professionally," as you say. Also, anything mounted next to the NVG shroud may interfere with NVGs moving up and down if it sits too proud of the surface, side mounting things removes most potential for interference.

Besides that--a lot of helmets already come with side attachment rails these days, and a lot of lights (like the Princeton Tec helmet lights) are already designed to be mounted on side rails anyways, so they end up going on side rails.

~Augee
7/11/2017 8:47:26 PM EDT
[#19]
Thanks Augee for a succinct response.
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