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Posted: 2/15/2017 10:10:44 PM EDT
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So I bought some armor from a fellow Arfcommer and I have absolutely no idea what it is. If you're wondering why I bought something I know nothing about it was part of package deal.
Anyway, I think its some kind of DAPS armor but I don't know for certain. Armor (I think these are armor, anyway) is sewn in, no opening to remove it. 3 color desert camo. No markings of any kind anywhere on either one. No manufacturer, no ballistic rating, no numbers, nothing. Velcro on the straps. 
Just want to know what the heck these are. Google got me nowhere no matter what I searched for. Would also like to know the purpose of the MOLLE style webbing sewn on towards the top, if anyone knows. Would also like to know ballistic rating. Things are HUGE, like 11 inches top to bottom by 12 inches side to side. They look very similar to DAPS, but I couldn't find any DAPS of any kind in 3 color desert, much less ones that matched this design. Any help/info is appreciated. I'm genuinely at a loss here. UPDATE: Here is the picture with the straps open, showing the velcro. It isn't like other DAPS where there's velcro on the other side of the DAP for the straps to attach to, the straps are on the same side as the velcro on the DAP "body". There is NO velcro on the other side, as can be seen in the other photos. Type of velcro is labeled. 
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It would help to know what body armor came with those DAPs that you bought.
I can tell you that it certainly doesn't appear that they are for the old Interceptor OTVs or even the newer IOTVs. The overall cut, attachment points, and accessory straps match nothing I've ever seen for those systems. It could just be a one-off custom job for an older armor system. The military phased that pattern out over a decade ago. As far as ballistic properties, I'm sure that they would at least be rated IIA, but who knows, they could be V50 or IIIA too. Either way, good for most handgun threats I would assume. ETA: Since you said they were huge, they may not be for arms. They may be for legs. Thigh armor or something. Closest match I could come up with using my Google-fu. The webpage says it's experimental. The size and cut may be right (I'm referring to the shoulder armor), but the pattern and accessory points are different: 
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It would help to know what body armor came with those DAPs that you bought. I can tell you that it certainly doesn't appear that they are for the old Interceptor OTVs or even the newer IOTVs. The overall cut, attachment points, and accessory straps match nothing I've ever seen for those systems. It could just be a one-off custom job for an older armor system. The military phased that pattern out over a decade ago. As far as ballistic properties, I'm sure that they would at least be rated IIA, but who knows, they could be V50 or IIIA too. Either way, good for most handgun threats I would assume. ETA: Since you said they were huge, they may not be for arms. They may be for legs. Thigh armor or something. Closest match I could come up with using my Google-fu. The webpage says it's experimental. The size and cut may be right (I'm referring to the shoulder armor), but the pattern and accessory points are different: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/usarmy-collectors/images%20web/body%20armor%2064.jpg The armor they came with didn't go with these, it was just a bunch of random stuff the guy had. An ACH, an old PASGT, 8x10 square lvl. 4 ceramic plate, couple other unrelated non-armor items. I asked the seller what these were and he didn't even know. All he told me was they were some sort of DAPS, didn't know anything else about them. Yeah, that image is close. Like I said, I could find stuff that was close, but no match. And I just said they were huge cause I've never held any DAPS myself besides the square MSAPS, but it seems most other DAPS are ridiculously large. These things won't even strap securely to my arms, and I couldn't see them working on anyone else's arms unless they had some inhuman, monstrous biceps. I can kind of get them to work on my thighs though. |
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That's the shoulder part of the IBA DAPS http://ciehub.info/equipment/protective/IBA/DAPSAssemblyInstructions.jpeg http://ciehub.info/equipment/protective/IBA/DAPSAssemblyInstructionsBack.jpeg IIRC, the Gen 1 DAPS came in multiple sizes, so that could be why they are so big Thats closer, but mine are missing the velcro id/patch area, and the accessory webbing is different. Plus the straps on mine work totally differently, there isn't any velcro on the other side, the straps can only attach to themselves, not to the armor. Kinda hard to explain. I'll post a pic later with the straps open so people can see how they work. The profile is very close, but still not the same. I'm wondering if the other guy was right and this is just some weird one-off custom job or something. Or maybe its an old prototype. I don't know. 
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Similar (but not exactly identical) cut, and accessory strap pattern, just a different camo pattern. Interesting. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yfsAAOSwtfhYpmno/s-l1600.jpg Wow... thats damn close. Still not exactly the same, but very close. Thanks for the pic, I can just make out some of the text on the tags. Hopefully that will help. Oh crap, I forgot to post that pic showing how the straps work on mine.  I'll try to remember tomorrow.
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on DAPS, all of the attaching happens on the body side of the panel. The top long velcro strap goes over the shoulder of the armor, then back out underneath and attaches to the loop on the inside of the DAPS. Yours looks to work the same
the velcro on the outside of the panel of for attaching insignia patches |
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