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Posted: 2/18/2015 10:25:37 AM EDT
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Do you guys put your water in a camelbak on your PC, or do you put one in a backpack of some kind? Or do you prefer to just use water bottles?
I'm just setting up a grab and go set up of some stuff. I've got a war belt and PC set up, I've got a 5.11 72 hour assault pack. I'm putting together survival and medical supplies for the pack. I'm thinking I'll put a 100L camelbak in the pack rather than on the PC, and then adding in a Camelbak water bottle and a steel cup. Is there any reason not do what I'm thinking of doing for my hydration needs? |
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What I use is in here. Out of curiousity how much do you estimate this all to weigh? How much does your PC and Pack weigh right now? Right now my PC probably weights about 25 pounds. It's 3 rifle mags and 2 pistol mags on it. War belt is probably under 10. 1 rifle mag 1 pistol mag, glock 19, and a flash light and a multi tool. Still need to put a med kit on it. The pack will probably come into around 40 with what I plan on putting in it without the water. |
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What I use is in here. Out of curiousity how much do you estimate this all to weigh? How much does your PC and Pack weigh right now? Right now my PC probably weights about 25 pounds. It's 3 rifle mags and 2 pistol mags on it. War belt is probably under 10. 1 rifle mag 1 pistol mag, glock 19, and a flash light and a multi tool. Still need to put a med kit on it. The pack will probably come into around 40 with what I plan on putting in it without the water. 75 pounds total? I hope you're young and in good shape. That's a shitload of weight if you're planing to hike any distance or try to run. |
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75 pounds total? I hope you're young and in good shape. That's a shitload of weight if you're planing to hike any distance or try to run. Quoted:
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What I use is in here. Out of curiousity how much do you estimate this all to weigh? How much does your PC and Pack weigh right now? Right now my PC probably weights about 25 pounds. It's 3 rifle mags and 2 pistol mags on it. War belt is probably under 10. 1 rifle mag 1 pistol mag, glock 19, and a flash light and a multi tool. Still need to put a med kit on it. The pack will probably come into around 40 with what I plan on putting in it without the water. 75 pounds total? I hope you're young and in good shape. That's a shitload of weight if you're planing to hike any distance or try to run. I'm 23, my brothers 29 and he carried about 90lbs of shit in Afghanistan. I figure if he can do it I can. I'm not going to just throw it all on at once and expect to be able to 10 miles. I've got a farm with good hiking, I'm going to do some "marches" for lack of a better word, starting out with just the PC, war belt, rifle, and some water. |
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All depends on situation. I've never really been a fan of hydration packs and usually stick to water bottles. It's mainly a hygiene thing for me. That being said, I wear Crye pants with an elastic loop in the cargo pocket to hold small water bottles. I hate having a giant weight swinging around in my pocket. Also, I drink about 1/4 of the water that the average guy does, even when I was in AFG. If you drink a lot, a bladder would probably be better for you. Digging water bottles out of your pack every few minutes can be a real pain, especially if you're in a situation where you cannot afford to keep stopping and messing with your pack.
If you go with a bladder, look into Source. I prefer them over the other popular brands and they also make a cool adapter to fill your pack through the tube (this would be good if you mount to a PC and don't have a buddy to help fill you up). It can be hooked up to a hose or water bottle. Realistically, in your situation, you'd probably be fine to put a bladder in your pack; it's more convenient on many levels. Do you anticipate being separated for your pack for an extended period of time? If the possibility exists, you may consider mounting water to your back as you do not want to be without water. There are other options as well but these are the basics. 
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All depends on situation. I've never really been a fan of hydration packs and usually stick to water bottles. It's mainly a hygiene thing for me. That being said, I wear Crye pants with an elastic loop in the cargo pocket to hold small water bottles. I hate having a giant weight swinging around in my pocket. Also, I drink about 1/4 of the water that the average guy does, even when I was in AFG. If you drink a lot, a bladder would probably be better for you. Digging water bottles out of your pack every few minutes can be a real pain, especially if you're in a situation where you cannot afford to keep stopping and messing with your pack. If you go with a bladder, look into Source. I prefer them over the other popular brands and they also make a cool adapter to fill your pack through the tube (this would be good if you mount to a PC and don't have a buddy to help fill you up). It can be hooked up to a hose or water bottle. Realistically, in your situation, you'd probably be fine to put a bladder in your pack; it's more convenient on many levels. Do you anticipate being separated for your pack for an extended period of time? If the possibility exists, you may consider mounting water to your back as you do not want to be without water. There are other options as well but these are the basics. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7e/da/f3/7edaf35018c6619cdee58e25aaa101e5.jpg The only reason I could see myself being away from my pack for a long time is if we're in a shit hit the fan type scenario and I had to either ditch my pack to fight (about a 0.0001 on the likelihood scale) Or if I was hiking and got in a situation where I just couldn't carry the weight anymore. Which in that case I figure I'd be ditching the plates first anyway, and I have a couple packets of water purification in a pouch on my war belt. |
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I use a 3L thermobak. I stuff it into the hydration pocket of my ruck/bag and can pull it out to wear it on its own. I don't like having it mounted on my armor because it gets in the way of carrying a ruck/bag, makes sitting in a vehicle seat awkward/uncomfortable, and getting in and out of the turret it's one more thing to snag (not so much an issue for you). Also just because your brother carried that much weight doesn't mean you should either. There's a reason why service members now are getting out with a lot more muskuloskeletal injuries (i.e. back, hip and knee related) than ever before. There's absolutely no reason you should carry more than ~50lbs for any extended amount of time. Sure maybe throw on a 100lb pack and go a few miles to know how much it sucks, but it won't make you all that much stronger. You just learn to mentally embrace the suck. I train with a 55lb ruck (wet weight with ~8lbs of that being water) and can carry a little more than double that if I have to but I'm sure not going to train that way. |
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I use a 3L thermobak. I stuff it into the hydration pocket of my ruck/bag and can pull it out to wear it on its own. I don't like having it mounted on my armor because it gets in the way of carrying a ruck/bag, makes sitting in a vehicle seat awkward/uncomfortable, and getting in and out of the turret it's one more thing to snag (not so much an issue for you). Also just because your brother carried that much weight doesn't mean you should either. There's a reason why service members now are getting out with a lot more muskuloskeletal injuries (i.e. back, hip and knee related) than ever before. There's absolutely no reason you should carry more than ~50lbs for any extended amount of time. Sure maybe throw on a 100lb pack and go a few miles to know how much it sucks, but it won't make you all that much stronger. You just learn to mentally embrace the suck. I train with a 55lb ruck (wet weight with ~8lbs of that being water) and can carry a little more than double that if I have to but I'm sure not going to train that way. I understand, I'm certainly not going to be carrying it all very often. The pack will serve dual purpose emergency/hiking and camping bag whereas the plates are pretty much just going to sit unless i take them to a carbine class or something. I basically just want to have a bare minimum in the pack to live off of, and an ample amount on the plates to keep me alive if I met a threat. This is my PC/war belt. It's pretty minimalist. With the exception of filling up that medic pouch with med supplies and a few very basic things like water purification, that's all I'll be having on those two things. So I guess in that breath I answered my own question since I'll be more likely to have the bag on me than the plates.  " />
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I understand, I'm certainly not going to be carrying it all very often. The pack will serve dual purpose emergency/hiking and camping bag whereas the plates are pretty much just going to sit unless i take them to a carbine class or something. I basically just want to have a bare minimum in the pack to live off of, and an ample amount on the plates to keep me alive if I met a threat. This is my PC/war belt. It's pretty minimalist. With the exception of filling up that medic pouch with med supplies and a few very basic things like water purification, that's all I'll be having on those two things. So I guess in that breath I answered my own question since I'll be more likely to have the bag on me than the plates. http://<a href=http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/jholdsworth71/FF513F68-4F49-4E4F-9CBF-DA48CBEF70CE_zpskh9zvssw.jpg</a>" /> Quoted:
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I use a 3L thermobak. I stuff it into the hydration pocket of my ruck/bag and can pull it out to wear it on its own. I don't like having it mounted on my armor because it gets in the way of carrying a ruck/bag, makes sitting in a vehicle seat awkward/uncomfortable, and getting in and out of the turret it's one more thing to snag (not so much an issue for you). Also just because your brother carried that much weight doesn't mean you should either. There's a reason why service members now are getting out with a lot more muskuloskeletal injuries (i.e. back, hip and knee related) than ever before. There's absolutely no reason you should carry more than ~50lbs for any extended amount of time. Sure maybe throw on a 100lb pack and go a few miles to know how much it sucks, but it won't make you all that much stronger. You just learn to mentally embrace the suck. I train with a 55lb ruck (wet weight with ~8lbs of that being water) and can carry a little more than double that if I have to but I'm sure not going to train that way. I understand, I'm certainly not going to be carrying it all very often. The pack will serve dual purpose emergency/hiking and camping bag whereas the plates are pretty much just going to sit unless i take them to a carbine class or something. I basically just want to have a bare minimum in the pack to live off of, and an ample amount on the plates to keep me alive if I met a threat. This is my PC/war belt. It's pretty minimalist. With the exception of filling up that medic pouch with med supplies and a few very basic things like water purification, that's all I'll be having on those two things. So I guess in that breath I answered my own question since I'll be more likely to have the bag on me than the plates. http://<a href=http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/jholdsworth71/FF513F68-4F49-4E4F-9CBF-DA48CBEF70CE_zpskh9zvssw.jpg</a>" /> IF those pouches are Condor be aware that the elastic is kinda crap. I've had their stuff wear out in less than 6 months of airsoft. Don't store them with mags in them as it'll stretch out pretty quick. (They look like Condor's kanagroo and pistol pouches...but I'm not 100% sure from your picture though) |
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IF those pouches are Condor be aware that the elastic is kinda crap. I've had their stuff wear out in less than 6 months of airsoft. Don't store them with mags in them as it'll stretch out pretty quick. (They look like Condor's kanagroo and pistol pouches...but I'm not 100% sure from your picture though) Quoted:
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I use a 3L thermobak. I stuff it into the hydration pocket of my ruck/bag and can pull it out to wear it on its own. I don't like having it mounted on my armor because it gets in the way of carrying a ruck/bag, makes sitting in a vehicle seat awkward/uncomfortable, and getting in and out of the turret it's one more thing to snag (not so much an issue for you). Also just because your brother carried that much weight doesn't mean you should either. There's a reason why service members now are getting out with a lot more muskuloskeletal injuries (i.e. back, hip and knee related) than ever before. There's absolutely no reason you should carry more than ~50lbs for any extended amount of time. Sure maybe throw on a 100lb pack and go a few miles to know how much it sucks, but it won't make you all that much stronger. You just learn to mentally embrace the suck. I train with a 55lb ruck (wet weight with ~8lbs of that being water) and can carry a little more than double that if I have to but I'm sure not going to train that way. I understand, I'm certainly not going to be carrying it all very often. The pack will serve dual purpose emergency/hiking and camping bag whereas the plates are pretty much just going to sit unless i take them to a carbine class or something. I basically just want to have a bare minimum in the pack to live off of, and an ample amount on the plates to keep me alive if I met a threat. This is my PC/war belt. It's pretty minimalist. With the exception of filling up that medic pouch with med supplies and a few very basic things like water purification, that's all I'll be having on those two things. So I guess in that breath I answered my own question since I'll be more likely to have the bag on me than the plates. http://<a href=http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/jholdsworth71/FF513F68-4F49-4E4F-9CBF-DA48CBEF70CE_zpskh9zvssw.jpg</a>" /> IF those pouches are Condor be aware that the elastic is kinda crap. I've had their stuff wear out in less than 6 months of airsoft. Don't store them with mags in them as it'll stretch out pretty quick. (They look like Condor's kanagroo and pistol pouches...but I'm not 100% sure from your picture though) They condor, my gf bought them for me, I plan to replace them soon, I know they're not meant to last very long. She was trying to be helpful, which I appreciated. Edit: I may just replace with my own shock cord when there's wears out. |
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I use the BDS Tactical V-OPS Chest Rig with the built-in hydration carrier on the back. One of the best systems I have come across:
https://www.bdstacticalgear.com/pd-bds-tactical-molle-vehicle-operators-chest-rig.cfm |
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