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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:29:51 PM EDT
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Am I right that this carrier comes with level IV plates?
link The description says: Carrier, Plates (Level IV), MODULAR Front and Back, Adjustable MODULAR Side Panels, Medium/Large |
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The PDF Datasheet states that plates are not included. But the descriptions are very confusing. I agree with you, it reads like plates are included. Thanks, didn't click that far. I own one of these already, but didn't have to pay for it. It's solid, but the $430 price now makes sense why they have been having such large sales lately... Not that I balk at paying for good gear, but their competition (think Mayflower APC) comes at half the cost. |
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Quoted: 50% off everything LBT that doesn't have a "No Promo/Discount" in the product description. Have to be signed in to see the 50% off pricing. Quoted: Quoted: So what's the story with that sale? 50% off everything LBT that doesn't have a "No Promo/Discount" in the product description. Have to be signed in to see the 50% off pricing. Oh ya that helps. Thanks. |
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6094a fits small and medium plates 6094b fits large 6094c fits xlarge Quoted:
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So I will throw in the same question I did for my Crye JPC; which size vest fits what size plates? Can anyone provide some specific measurements? Thanks in advance. 6094a fits small and medium plates 6094b fits large 6094c fits xlarge Thanks, but I got that part (I can read too!  )
I am talking about what size PC can accept what plates by measurements, since not all of us have SAPI plates. For instance, I have three different sets of plates that are not exactly the size as they are listed (See the thread I posted asking about the Crye JPC sizing). Anyway, I figured out the sizing, but does anyone know where to get soft armor inserts that fit them? |
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Thanks, but I got that part (I can read too! )
I am talking about what size PC can accept what plates by measurements, since not all of us have SAPI plates. For instance, I have three different sets of plates that are not exactly the size as they are listed (See the thread I posted asking about the Crye JPC sizing). Anyway, I figured out the sizing, but does anyone know where to get soft armor inserts that fit them? Quoted:
Thanks, but I got that part (I can read too! )
I am talking about what size PC can accept what plates by measurements, since not all of us have SAPI plates. For instance, I have three different sets of plates that are not exactly the size as they are listed (See the thread I posted asking about the Crye JPC sizing). Anyway, I figured out the sizing, but does anyone know where to get soft armor inserts that fit them? The A, B, M, C, etc. seem to change over the years given gen vintage year.Standard cuts now are ESAPI-SPEAR and Swimmer. In the past there was a nice comments section with checkout, where you could specify the cut, custom colors, etc. Now I cannot find that. LBT also sells hard and soft armor to fit their carriers. Particularly the uncommon side cuts. By the time we email their CS, and if we get a response, the sale is over. Quoted:
At this time, I can't get the LBT checkout procedure to complete. Something about no shipping options available. Weird, as I've ordered on-line from just recently. You think that is strange. I can not find the add to cart button on this here Maybe my browser is outdated too much to show up. |
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Mine just went through fine as well. I subsequently discovered my problem. I had placed in my cart an unavailable item. No mention by LBT that it was sold-out, so into the cart it went. After emptying the cart completely, and adding items singly, I discovered the problem, and managed to buy the other item that I wanted. Thread in GD about it. Why LBT can't use a modern shopping cart like practically everyone else on the internet is beyond me. |
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The A, B, M, C, etc. seem to change over the years given gen vintage year.Standard cuts now are ESAPI-SPEAR and Swimmer. In the past there was a nice comments section with checkout, where you could specify the cut, custom colors, etc. Now I cannot find that. LBT also sells hard and soft armor to fit their carriers. Particularly the uncommon side cuts. By the time we email their CS, and if we get a response, the sale is over. You think that is strange. I can not find the add to cart button on this here Maybe my browser is outdated too much to show up. Quoted:
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Thanks, but I got that part (I can read too! )
I am talking about what size PC can accept what plates by measurements, since not all of us have SAPI plates. For instance, I have three different sets of plates that are not exactly the size as they are listed (See the thread I posted asking about the Crye JPC sizing). Anyway, I figured out the sizing, but does anyone know where to get soft armor inserts that fit them? The A, B, M, C, etc. seem to change over the years given gen vintage year.Standard cuts now are ESAPI-SPEAR and Swimmer. In the past there was a nice comments section with checkout, where you could specify the cut, custom colors, etc. Now I cannot find that. LBT also sells hard and soft armor to fit their carriers. Particularly the uncommon side cuts. By the time we email their CS, and if we get a response, the sale is over. Quoted:
At this time, I can't get the LBT checkout procedure to complete. Something about no shipping options available. Weird, as I've ordered on-line from just recently. You think that is strange. I can not find the add to cart button on this here Maybe my browser is outdated too much to show up. Yeah I got the 6094A on the sale (woo hoo) but couldn't FFS find the soft armor. Needed the soft armor for the cumberbund. |
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Yeah I got the 6094A on the sale (woo hoo) but couldn't FFS find the soft armor. Needed the soft armor for the cumberbund. Email their CS and the employee emails handling your order in the confirmation emails you get. Might get lucky with a response. Hopefully they will give you 50% off. They are probably flooded. Good luck "Please consult your LBT sales person to purchase a soft armor package specifically made for this LBT plate carrier. There are no exchanges on this product for sizing or soft armor - use at your own risk*" Don't forget to also double check the bungee cord adjustment at the rear of the cummerbund. You would not want it to fall apart unexpectedly.  Their CS must be really busy, snce they still have not responded, to provide replacement bungee for their gen1 6094 pc's!
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[ Don't forget to also double check the bungee cord adjustment at the rear of the cummerbund. You would not want it to fall apart unexpectedly. Their CS must be really busy, snce they still have not responded, to provide replacement bungee for their gen1 6094 pc's!When I bought mine earlier this year, a second bungee was included in the c-bun plate area |
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Email their CS and the employee emails handling your order in the confirmation emails you get. Might get lucky with a response. Hopefully they will give you 50% off. They are probably flooded. Good luck "Please consult your LBT sales person to purchase a soft armor package specifically made for this LBT plate carrier. There are no exchanges on this product for sizing or soft armor - use at your own risk*" Don't forget to also double check the bungee cord adjustment at the rear of the cummerbund. You would not want it to fall apart unexpectedly. Their CS must be really busy, snce they still have not responded, to provide replacement bungee for their gen1 6094 pc's!Quoted:
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Yeah I got the 6094A on the sale (woo hoo) but couldn't FFS find the soft armor. Needed the soft armor for the cumberbund. Email their CS and the employee emails handling your order in the confirmation emails you get. Might get lucky with a response. Hopefully they will give you 50% off. They are probably flooded. Good luck "Please consult your LBT sales person to purchase a soft armor package specifically made for this LBT plate carrier. There are no exchanges on this product for sizing or soft armor - use at your own risk*" Don't forget to also double check the bungee cord adjustment at the rear of the cummerbund. You would not want it to fall apart unexpectedly. Their CS must be really busy, snce they still have not responded, to provide replacement bungee for their gen1 6094 pc's!Emailed their CS, let's see how long this takes. |
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Yeah I got the 6094A on the sale (woo hoo) but couldn't FFS find the soft armor. Needed the soft armor for the cumberbund. Email their CS and the employee emails handling your order in the confirmation emails you get. Might get lucky with a response. Hopefully they will give you 50% off. They are probably flooded. Good luck "Please consult your LBT sales person to purchase a soft armor package specifically made for this LBT plate carrier. There are no exchanges on this product for sizing or soft armor - use at your own risk*" Don't forget to also double check the bungee cord adjustment at the rear of the cummerbund. You would not want it to fall apart unexpectedly. Their CS must be really busy, snce they still have not responded, to provide replacement bungee for their gen1 6094 pc's!Emailed their CS, let's see how long this takes. I've always had great experiences with their CS. If they aren't responding in under 24 hours, they must be swamped. There were a few times where I had emailed them at 8:00 at night and an hour later I was getting a response with a "Sent from my iPhone" line at the bottom. |
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I talked to them yesterday great ppl they told me they have not made it through a 1/4 of the orders from the weekend but my 6094a should be here today  . I may take a trip down to the store at VA beach its just 2hr drive for meHmmm no reply to my email yet. 
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| I was under the assumption that the 66094B is what I should order since most common plates are 10x12. I wear a medium long size in acu's so I was hesitant on ordering a large. But since the sale was only on sunday, I ordered the 6094B anyways. Does anyone have any insight on this, did I order the wrong size? |
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I was under the assumption that the 66094B is what I should order since most common plates are 10x12. I wear a medium long size in acu's so I was hesitant on ordering a large. But since the sale was only on sunday, I ordered the 6094B anyways. Does anyone have any insight on this, did I order the wrong size? You did fine, I have 10x12s in my 6094B and they fit fine and stay in there without a problem. |
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I talked to them yesterday great ppl they told me they have not made it through a 1/4 of the orders from the weekend but my 6094a should be here today . I may take a trip down to the store at VA beach its just 2hr drive for meHmmm no reply to my email yet. Same here. For months no em from CS re fix, etc. Also last order received had defective goods. Did a RMR request em the other day, still no response. We will see. |
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I was under the assumption that the 66094B is what I should order since most common plates are 10x12. I wear a medium long size in acu's so I was hesitant on ordering a large. But since the sale was only on sunday, I ordered the 6094B anyways. Does anyone have any insight on this, did I order the wrong size? Have had a few, each gen has been a different cut. I think the current standard 6094B they send you, unless you specify Swimmer Cut, are for Large ESAPI-SPEAR cut plates only. These will not fit 10x12 since they will ride low in the pc and the top portion is narrow. Some 10x12 plates are wide at top, like Paraclete-MSA and you cannot push them up in the B. ESAPI spec are larger and narrower at the top than some 10x12. Maybe the 10x12 cut is A and not B. These letters keep changing over the style-cut-gen-years. If your 10x12 are narrow "shooters cut" at the top, maybe you can push them up the ESAPI cut pocket, not ideal. Then there is the whole issue of the thickness and multiple curves of your plate and if what you have will even fit through their pockets. |
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Have had a few, each gen has been a different cut. I think the current standard 6094B they send you, unless you specify Swimmer Cut, are for Large ESAPI-SPEAR cut plates only. These will not fit 10x12 since they will ride low in the pc and the top portion is narrow. Some 10x12 plates are wide at top, like Paraclete-MSA and you cannot push them up in the B. ESAPI spec are larger and narrower at the top than some 10x12. Maybe the 10x12 cut is A and not B. These letters keep changing over the style-cut-gen-years. If your 10x12 are narrow "shooters cut" at the top, maybe you can push them up the ESAPI cut pocket, not ideal. Then there is the whole issue of the thickness and multiple curves of your plate and if what you have will even fit through their pockets. Quoted:
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I was under the assumption that the 66094B is what I should order since most common plates are 10x12. I wear a medium long size in acu's so I was hesitant on ordering a large. But since the sale was only on sunday, I ordered the 6094B anyways. Does anyone have any insight on this, did I order the wrong size? Have had a few, each gen has been a different cut. I think the current standard 6094B they send you, unless you specify Swimmer Cut, are for Large ESAPI-SPEAR cut plates only. These will not fit 10x12 since they will ride low in the pc and the top portion is narrow. Some 10x12 plates are wide at top, like Paraclete-MSA and you cannot push them up in the B. ESAPI spec are larger and narrower at the top than some 10x12. Maybe the 10x12 cut is A and not B. These letters keep changing over the style-cut-gen-years. If your 10x12 are narrow "shooters cut" at the top, maybe you can push them up the ESAPI cut pocket, not ideal. Then there is the whole issue of the thickness and multiple curves of your plate and if what you have will even fit through their pockets. I currently do not have any plates but will in the future. Going from what the website says, the current B model holds the 10x12 and the a holds 8x10. |
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I currently do not have any plates but will in the future. Going from what the website says, the current B model holds the 10x12 and the a holds 8x10. Maybe they have changed spec's again. It will be interesting to see the cut and measurements of what you receive. If it is true 10x12 (9.5 X 11.5) or ESAPI Large which larger than 10x12. We also do not know how wide the top front of the pc will be and how thick the pockets are now. |
my gamma 10x12 plates fit at the top but are short at the button. banshee 3a soft front and back backers fit as well but not the cummberbun its to long. 6094a this thing is the bomb It is way more comfortable then my banshee much more range of motion and its a lot lighter wish I got one a long time ago. Im a small guy 5.10 165lb. |
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http://rs1260.pbsrc.com/albums/ii563/BADW85/IMG_20140619_183446_610.jpg~320x480 my gamma 10x12 plates fit at the top but are short at the button. banshee 3a soft front and back backers fit as well but not the cummberbun its to long. 6094a this thing is the bomb It is way more comfortable then my banshee much more range of motion and its a lot lighter wish I got one a long time ago. Im a small guy 5.10 165lb. Very nice carrier and it came with a patch. We like wearing them a bit higher.
Looks like ESAPI cut but I am no expert. The ESAPI Large is about an inch+ taller from 10x12, I think. If your PC has a label sewn on the inside back, it may say ESAPI cut with size. Other brands and cuts of plates are wider at the top, so we cannot always push them up in the ESAPI cut, I was trying to find where on their LBT site, you said having found it listed as accepting 10x12, could not find. Your rear plate pocket can accept a rectangular cut plate, for a little more coverage. At least the old ones can. What made you choose the standard PC and not their Releasable version for about $100 more? Now you have to set this carrier up to your ideal configuration. This is your first LBT carrier of many more, Enjoy! http://lbtinc.com/ordering-help/downloads http://lbtinc.com/media/images/attachments/PlateCarrierSelection.pdf |
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Very nice carrier and it came with a patch. We like wearing them a bit higher.
Looks like ESAPI cut but I am no expert. The ESAPI Large is about an inch+ taller from 10x12, I think. If your PC has a label sewn on the inside back, it may say ESAPI cut with size. Other brands and cuts of plates are wider at the top, so we cannot always push them up in the ESAPI cut, I was trying to find where on their LBT site, you said having found it listed as accepting 10x12, could not find. Your rear plate pocket can accept a rectangular cut plate, for a little more coverage. At least the old ones can. What made you choose the standard PC and not their Releasable version for about $100 more? Now you have to set this carrier up to your ideal configuration. This is your first LBT carrier of many more, Enjoy! http://lbtinc.com/ordering-help/downloads http://lbtinc.com/media/images/attachments/PlateCarrierSelection.pdf Quoted:
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http://rs1260.pbsrc.com/albums/ii563/BADW85/IMG_20140619_183446_610.jpg~320x480 my gamma 10x12 plates fit at the top but are short at the button. banshee 3a soft front and back backers fit as well but not the cummberbun its to long. 6094a this thing is the bomb It is way more comfortable then my banshee much more range of motion and its a lot lighter wish I got one a long time ago. Im a small guy 5.10 165lb. Very nice carrier and it came with a patch. We like wearing them a bit higher.
Looks like ESAPI cut but I am no expert. The ESAPI Large is about an inch+ taller from 10x12, I think. If your PC has a label sewn on the inside back, it may say ESAPI cut with size. Other brands and cuts of plates are wider at the top, so we cannot always push them up in the ESAPI cut, I was trying to find where on their LBT site, you said having found it listed as accepting 10x12, could not find. Your rear plate pocket can accept a rectangular cut plate, for a little more coverage. At least the old ones can. What made you choose the standard PC and not their Releasable version for about $100 more? Now you have to set this carrier up to your ideal configuration. This is your first LBT carrier of many more, Enjoy! http://lbtinc.com/ordering-help/downloads http://lbtinc.com/media/images/attachments/PlateCarrierSelection.pdf Thank! yes the tag has it marked for ESAPI med I thought at the time when I ordered that they fit swimmers cut but no big deal. I can have a set of them soon. can you tell me I the swimmer cut will still fit if its for ESAPI? I had no need for the Releasable version this is one of three set ups I have, saving the 100 for soft 3a armor. the LT-3a looks good for the money I was talking to CS last night about ordering early next week no where on LBT's site can I find that they fit 10x12. Now I know you have got to have some LBT Gear that you can share with us!! |
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All I could find was this pdf.
http://lbtinc.com/media/images/attachments/6094ABC-Level-IV.pdf |
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http://rs1260.pbsrc.com/albums/ii563/BADW85/IMG_20140619_183446_610.jpg~320x480 my gamma 10x12 plates fit at the top but are short at the button. banshee 3a soft front and back backers fit as well but not the cummberbun its to long. 6094a this thing is the bomb It is way more comfortable then my banshee much more range of motion and its a lot lighter wish I got one a long time ago. Im a small guy 5.10 165lb. Damn dude, I'm 5.11 and 165 lbs; never thought we were the "little" guys 
I received my 6094A carrier last Thursday, and will be bringing it back with me to AFG. I will try on the three different sizes of plates in a couple of weeks, so I will make sure I share my observations with everyone on this thread. I have also been in touch with LBT for soft armor inserts; I had to provide my credentials for them to send me what they had and an order form. |
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I have a 6094B MultiCam coming on Tuesday, along with new Level IV 10x12 shooters cut plates from Bulletproofme.
I talked to Kevin at LBT the other day about plate fit before I ordered them and he said I should be good to go. He said LBT has made some internal adjustments to the sizing flap and plate pocket to better accommodate other plates. Although more spec'd for ESAPI contract,, he said the clipped corners on the shooters cut I'm getting are very similar to ESAPI, so fit shouldn't be a problem. Will post up my results with this new kit once I get it. |
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I have a 6094B MultiCam coming on Tuesday, along with new Level IV 10x12 shooters cut plates from Bulletproofme. I talked to Kevin at LBT the other day about plate fit before I ordered them and he said I should be good to go. He said LBT has made some internal adjustments to the sizing flap and plate pocket to better accommodate other plates. Although more spec'd for ESAPI contract,, he said the clipped corners on the shooters cut I'm getting are very similar to ESAPI, so fit shouldn't be a problem. Will post up my results with this new kit once I get it. Good info here thanks look forward to the post. I just found the ESAPI tag on my 6094, I always thought they where for swimmers cut. |
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Thank! yes the tag has it marked for ESAPI med I thought at the time when I ordered that they fit swimmers cut but no big deal. I can have a set of them soon. can you tell me I the swimmer cut will still fit if its for ESAPI? I had no need for the Releasable version this is one of three set ups I have, saving the 100 for soft 3a armor. the LT-3a looks good for the money I was talking to CS last night about ordering early next week no where on LBT's site can I find that they fit 10x12. Now I know you have got to have some LBT Gear that you can share with us!! Quoted:
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http://rs1260.pbsrc.com/albums/ii563/BADW85/IMG_20140619_183446_610.jpg~320x480 my gamma 10x12 plates fit at the top but are short at the button. banshee 3a soft front and back backers fit as well but not the cummberbun its to long. 6094a this thing is the bomb It is way more comfortable then my banshee much more range of motion and its a lot lighter wish I got one a long time ago. Im a small guy 5.10 165lb. Very nice carrier and it came with a patch. We like wearing them a bit higher.
Looks like ESAPI cut but I am no expert. The ESAPI Large is about an inch+ taller from 10x12, I think. If your PC has a label sewn on the inside back, it may say ESAPI cut with size. Other brands and cuts of plates are wider at the top, so we cannot always push them up in the ESAPI cut, I was trying to find where on their LBT site, you said having found it listed as accepting 10x12, could not find. Your rear plate pocket can accept a rectangular cut plate, for a little more coverage. At least the old ones can. What made you choose the standard PC and not their Releasable version for about $100 more? Now you have to set this carrier up to your ideal configuration. This is your first LBT carrier of many more, Enjoy! http://lbtinc.com/ordering-help/downloads http://lbtinc.com/media/images/attachments/PlateCarrierSelection.pdf Thank! yes the tag has it marked for ESAPI med I thought at the time when I ordered that they fit swimmers cut but no big deal. I can have a set of them soon. can you tell me I the swimmer cut will still fit if its for ESAPI? I had no need for the Releasable version this is one of three set ups I have, saving the 100 for soft 3a armor. the LT-3a looks good for the money I was talking to CS last night about ordering early next week no where on LBT's site can I find that they fit 10x12. Now I know you have got to have some LBT Gear that you can share with us!! Will be interesting to see if your Swimmer cut plates follow these numbers. Could not post pdf. Here are some generic measurements in inches. Excuse any typos in the rush. Swimmer Cut XL 12.60 H, 10.60 W, .50-1.00+ Thickness depending on model L 12.10 H, 9.92 W, .50-1.00 M 11.60 H, 9.92 W, .50-1.00 S 11.10 H, 9.11 W, .50-1.00 SPEAR (ESAPI ?) XL 14.00 H, 11.00 W, .50-1.00+ L 13.25 H, 10.25 W, .50-1.00+ M 12.50 H, 9.50 W, .50-1.00+ S 11.75 H, 8.75 W, .50-1.00+ Have never had a 6094A to be sure. Just L/XL's. Since LBT began making their carriers more plate specific, allowing little or no play. I would not take the chance. The 6037 series seems to be a 2 piece carrier they make that can accept a greater range of wider and thicker cuts. If LBT made the plate pockets of the 6094 like the wider 6037, and with more velcro, etc., for internal plate adjustment, we both might be happy. |
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I received my LBT-6094B in Multicam earlier this week. Great piece of kit. Especially when I grabbed it during their recent 50% off Father's Day sale. LBT for $220 is hard to beat.
I matched it up with some new 10x12 lightweight level IV shooter cut plates from Bulletproofme and they seem to work pretty well. No hot dog-in-a-hallway looseness, but they did put the velcro plate pocket adjustment at the top of its connectable range to get it closer fitting in the top. A 12-inch plate (or thereabouts) is just a bit short on length to go all the way up. What I did after this first fitting try was attach two 4-5 inch pieces of 1/2" foam pipe insulation to the top of each plate. I stole this padded top plate idea from Blue Force Gear who does it with the top of their LMAC carrier. If you've ever bumped your chin on the top of your plate, you'll know why. After adding this little bit of foam at the top front and back, the plate fit definitely improved. I'm really happy with this set up and look forward to getting out and testing it soon. For those buying 6094Bs, these PCs are clearly tagged for large ESAPI (I wish LBT was more clear about this instead of just saying "large plates"), but it will fit some 10x12s like mine thanks to the flexibility of the velcro plate pocket adjustment. I had heard this in my discussions with LBT as well. Hope this helps! |
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I bought the LBT 6094B-RS plate carrier in MC http://lbtinc.com/vest-h-gear-carriers/plate-carriers/modular-large-sentinel-releasable-plate-carrier.html at half-price, and also got Paraclete stand-alone ceramic Lvl 4 plates at half price a few days later. Recently I got some soft armor inserts for the sides of the cummerbund on sale from TYR.
PC carrier size was Large, and so were the plates. No problem with fit. Perfect match-up. Thanks to the above poster for the foam on top of the armor plate trick. As noted, there's room for this in this particular PC/plate combo. Your situation may vary, but it's worth a try, if at all possible. Plenty of room for adjustment on my 44" chest, even over fairly bulky outer garments. Wear the armor underneath really heavy outer garments, if needed, and size outer garments accordingly. Just ordered some 6x8 side hard armor plates from SKD on their group buy. The side pouches on my vest are nominally set up to accept 6x6 armor, but are expandable vertically (Thanks, LBT!), so the hard armor plates cited above will work. I already have some 6x6 soft armor inserts (mentioned above) that I can use as backers for the hard plates, if the soft backers required by these particular 6x8 plates are too expensive. Also bought a 3x2 M-16 kangaroo pouch on their last sale, which should also fit 3x1 M-14 mags with some closed cell foam placed in the bottom of the pouch in order to elevate the mags. |
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Anybody got some G2 for the 4th of July weekend sale yet? First of all, did you get my IM yet? As for upcoming sales, LBT has their ingoing sale on selected ACU/ABU items, as well as selected MC items, so there is that: http://lbtinc.com/. Tyr had a sale fairly recently. However, TT did not put anything on sale recently, so I would think there is a possibility there. As always, have a look at the "Blow-Out" section on www.specopsbrand.com. ETA: TAG Sale (selected items; been going on for a while): http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/clearance.aspx |
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