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Posted: 3/24/2014 8:00:13 AM EDT
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Okay, you guys have taught me tons of good shit about the belt and the plate carrier, and I'm pretty happy with what I have, just need to put it on and train a bit with it.
But what about the pack? What do I need to have in there? |
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Okay, you guys have taught me tons of good shit about the belt and the plate carrier, and I'm pretty happy with what I have, just need to put it on and train a bit with it. But what about the pack? What do I need to have in there? Subjective term is subjective. 
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Okay, you guys have taught me tons of good shit about the belt and the plate carrier, and I'm pretty happy with what I have, just need to put it on and train a bit with it. But what about the pack? What do I need to have in there? Subjective term is subjective. Touche'. Okay, what have you folks have in yours? 
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This is very subjective. For me my pack has 3 days worth of supplies to keep me going. This means food, water, shelter, and clothes. That 3 day supply could easily be stretched for longer periods or allow me to get a longer term camp set up.
It basically comes down to what you would like to have available to you. |
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Okay, you guys have taught me tons of good shit about the belt and the plate carrier, and I'm pretty happy with what I have, just need to put it on and train a bit with it. But what about the pack? What do I need to have in there? Subjective term is subjective. Touche'. Okay, what have you folks have in yours? OK, going where? Packing list for 3 weeks in the field, 3 day OP, patrol, hike in the woods? When I say subjective I really do me it is subjective to whatever you are going to be doing with your time. |
| Partly because 3rd line can be subjective, depending on if you are talking about an augmented fighting load (Something like the TT Removable Operator pack to hold some extra water and batteries and maybe a light jacket), a larger assault/patrol pack that'll sustain you for a full day or two, or a full on sustainment pack to live out of for days. I am a big fan of my Mystery Ranch NICE Frame carrying a medium ALICE and for that light patrol pack role, and prefer not to have to carry a full on sustainment pack for very damned far... Cause that gets real heavy, real fast. |
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Start with the very basics at least:
-A tarp that will cover you sleeping + your equipment dry from the rain (ponchos make crappy tarps, but you could get away with it) -Something dry and warm to sleep in. (bivybag + poncho liner type solution) -extremely basic food (snacks) and water. Think cliff bars, beef jerky, candy. - 2x pair clean dry socks -Basic Hygiene stuff: baby wipes, toothbrush, small bottles of foot powder & bug/sun spray. -basic weapon maint. solution. (A boresnake or an Otis kit can't help with stuck cases. Get a $14 GI rifle cleaning kit) - 1-2 spare sets of batteries for your optics/gps/whatever. -Some spare, intelligently placed spare ammo. I'm thinking like 2-3mags max for your rifle, 1 mag max for your pistol. Don't overdo it. People will add to this, but before they start suggesting tomahawks, hammocks, gucci $500 knives, gas masks, and other stupid shit.. everything listed above is right out of an army standard "field" packing list. We aren't talking super comfort camping with your jetboil, water purifiers, three piece sleep systems, etc.. This is basic, "keep you alive and moving forward on your feet" type shit. Whatever you do, keep the weight well under 30lbs for the bag if you plan on running around Tennessee with all of your crap on. Leave room for weather related additions or shit you might have to pick up along the way. |
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Water and/or filtration system Food Socks Base layers as appropriate for climate and duration Bug defenses as required Outer layers to defend against the elements as required Sleep system/shelter as required Toiletries Non-critical medical and/or comfort items Spare batteries, ammo as required |
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You really have to know what you're doing and where you're going first. Think in terms of "what's my desired end state?" Then work backwards from there. Identifying your available resources as well as your oppositions resources. Often referred to as METT-TC.
After that you can apply the OKOCA concept (in the terrain piece) of Obersevation, key terrain, obstacles, cover/concealment, avenues of approach. For how you'll get to where you're going. That should give you a good idea of what you'll be doing, and what you need to carry. It'll also keep you grounded in reality instead of jamming some stuff in a bag and going into the breech with dear friends for god and country with no clue what you're doing. I'm also a big fan of the 10% concept. Meaning you plan for something and add 10% of what you project you'll need. Ie water food ammo etc. Kinda like the 2 is 1 thought process but for consumable items. It does mean you carry more shit though but that's your trade off. Once you figure all that shit out come ask again and there will be a person here who can point you to exactly the gear you need to pack and how to carry it. Good luck |
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